From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1GJWDB-0004SO-Jf for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 02 Sep 2006 14:11:06 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with SMTP id k82E9A9s029477; Sat, 2 Sep 2006 14:09:10 GMT Received: from mognix.dark-green.com (83-64-96-243.bad-voeslau.xdsl-line.inode.at [83.64.96.243]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k82E5bOs005606 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2006 14:05:37 GMT Received: from [192.168.10.142] (chello084114192194.1.15.vie.surfer.at [84.114.192.194]) by mognix.dark-green.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 538B0429EA8 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2006 16:05:41 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <44F98FAF.5020508@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 16:05:35 +0200 From: Edgar Hucek User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060728) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: The Age of the Universe References: <44F95E3E.9000708@gentoo.org> <44F96559.6010003@gentoo.org> <44F96881.90806@gentoo.org> <200609021426.03618.kugelfang@gentoo.org> <44F988FB.3070001@gentoo.org> <44F98BB5.5010402@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <44F98BB5.5010402@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 6087e199-4ddc-4aa6-8166-a2334affc43c X-Archives-Hash: 3b170744d8ca25b62e1740aee12835c8 Simon Stelling schrieb: > Edgar Hucek wrote: >> Just a side hint. Try to enable all flags at the first cimpile time would >> reduce trys drasticaly ;) > > If you had a look at the php ebuild (just because we took it as example > here), you'd see that it is a bit more complicated than just enabling > everything to have everything tested. > >> So you say a developer cant't test all useflags? That is a strange >> message from you. How can a developer garantee that his package is correct. > > He can't. That's what we're saying. Nobody said we can, nor do, nor want to. > >> Realy funny, i only hear exuses but no real solution for the problem. > > You have heard the real solution for the specific problems you pointed > out: File a bug. You have also heard why it is impossible to guarantee > that it simply works. > >> The fact is, that long outstanding bugs are simple ignored. If a useflag >> would only apply to one package it could be ok, but not when the same >> useflag is in other packages and makes this one useflag for the "normal user" >> unusable. > > man portage: > > package.use > Per-package USE flags. Useful for tracking local USE > flags or for enabling USE flags for certain packages > only. Perhaps you develop GTK and thus you want documen- > tation for it, but you don't want documentation for QT. > Easy as pie my friend! > > Format: > - comments begin with # > - one DEPEND atom per line with space-delimited USE flags > > Example: > # turn on docs for GTK 2.x > =x11-libs/gtk+-2* doc > # disable mysql support for QT > x11-libs/qt -mysql > > Know your tools, man. > I know my tools but not necessarly the normal user who wanna use gentoo and is ending frustrated. cu Edgar (gimli) Hucek -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list