Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: The Age of the Universe

[Edgar Hucek <gimli@gentoo.org>]

Simon Stelling schrieb:
> Edgar Hucek wrote:
>> Just a side hint. Try to enable all flags at the first cimpile time would
>> reduce trys drasticaly ;)
> 
> If you had a look at the php ebuild (just because we took it as example
> here), you'd see that it is a bit more complicated than just enabling
> everything to have everything tested.
> 
>> So you say a developer cant't test all useflags? That is a strange
>> message from you. How can a developer garantee that his package is correct.
> 
> He can't. That's what we're saying. Nobody said we can, nor do, nor want to.
> 
>> Realy funny, i only hear exuses but no real solution for the problem.
> 
> You have heard the real solution for the specific problems you pointed
> out: File a bug. You have also heard why it is impossible to guarantee
> that it simply works.
> 
>> The fact is, that long outstanding bugs are simple ignored. If a useflag
>> would only apply to one package it could be ok, but not when the same
>> useflag is in other packages and makes this one useflag for the "normal user"
>> unusable.
> 
> man portage:
> 
> package.use
>   Per-package USE flags.  Useful  for  tracking  local  USE
>   flags  or  for  enabling  USE  flags for certain packages
>   only.  Perhaps you develop GTK and thus you want documen-
>   tation  for  it, but you don't want documentation for QT.
>   Easy as pie my friend!
> 
>   Format:
>   - comments begin with #
>   - one DEPEND atom per line with space-delimited USE flags
> 
>   Example:
>   # turn on docs for GTK 2.x
>   =x11-libs/gtk+-2* doc
>   # disable mysql support for QT
>   x11-libs/qt -mysql
> 
> Know your tools, man.
> 

I know my tools but not necessarly the normal user who wanna use gentoo
and is ending frustrated.

cu

Edgar (gimli) Hucek
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