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From: Luis Francisco Araujo <araujo@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 16:07:36 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44F0AA08.5010903@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44F07E21.3020109@gentoo.org>

Alec Warner wrote:
> Paul de Vrieze wrote:
>> On Thursday 24 August 2006 20:46, Alec Warner wrote:
>>> Robert Cernansky wrote:
>>>> What bothers me also, is that it has not plugin design like
>>>> xmms. Support for plugins is very good because lot of people can write
>>>> plugins for lot of things. This is why people do not want to switch
>>>> from xmms because thanks to plugins it have so many features that
>>>> currently no player is able to overcome it.
>>> So port the plugins from xmms to $NEW_CLIENT, since xmms is an old piece
>>> of crap.
>> Who cares. It works (mostly), it is lightweight, and there are enough people 
>> using it to keep it in the tree. As long as things don't break beyond repair 
>> I see no reason whatsoever to remove xmms (or any other largely unmaintained 
>> package in the tree).
>>
>> Paul
>>
> 
> This is one of those things (along with qa and security) that the
> community needs to decide.  Does stuff that works but has terrible qa
> stay in the tree?  Does security stuff stay in the tree, but masked?
> Should xmms be masked?  We have no real way of "deprecating" a package,
> aside from leaving it in the tree with a masking reason saying
> "deprecated and unsupported." at which point not everything in the tree
> becomes supported.
> 
> The Treecleaner project that I run is based on the assumption that
> broken stuff in the tree is bad, and I try to remove the really old stuf
> broken stuff first.  However I aspire to eventually "catch up" and get
> to the currently broken packages.  So which way will you have it?  Or is
> this more of a pragmatic stance on the tree?


Broken stuff but still maintained upstream, mask it.

Broken stuff and unmaintained upstream , send it to the overlay
(probably with a note warning about it on the ebuild?).

I would opt for that.

So, about the xmms ebuild, i agree with sending it to the overlay.

-- 


Luis F. Araujo "araujo at gentoo.org"
Gentoo Linux


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  reply	other threads:[~2006-08-26 20:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-23 20:30 [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die Luis Medinas
2006-08-23 20:47 ` Ioannis Aslanidis
2006-08-24  0:07 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-08-24  2:49   ` Luis Medinas
2006-08-24  2:58     ` Alec Warner
2006-08-24  3:11     ` Josh Saddler
2006-08-24  3:32       ` Luis Medinas
2006-08-24  0:00         ` [gentoo-dev] " Christian 'Opfer' Faulhammer
2006-08-24  9:44           ` Luis Medinas
2006-08-24  4:33         ` [gentoo-dev] " Luca Barbato
2006-08-24 13:12           ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-08-24 16:23             ` Dominique Michel
2006-08-24 19:37             ` Luca Barbato
2006-08-24 19:48               ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-08-24 19:57                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-08-24 22:41                   ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-08-25 14:41                     ` bret curtis
2006-08-24 20:07                 ` Luca Barbato
2006-08-24  4:44         ` Mike Frysinger
2006-08-24  6:40       ` Richard Fish
2006-08-24  7:01       ` Jakub Moc
2006-08-24 13:34         ` Anders Hellgren
2006-08-24 12:19 ` Robert Cernansky
2006-08-24 13:16   ` Pierre Guinoiseau
2006-08-24 13:53     ` Robert Cernansky
2006-08-24 14:01       ` Krzysiek Pawlik
2006-08-24 14:22         ` Robert Cernansky
2006-08-24 15:08           ` Andrej Kacian
2006-08-24 16:42             ` Robert Cernansky
2006-08-24 16:55               ` Adriaan Leijnse
2006-08-24 17:34               ` Andrej Kacian
2006-08-25  7:03                 ` Robert Cernansky
2006-08-27 17:46                   ` Doug Goldstein
2006-08-27 20:51                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-08-27 21:08                       ` Doug Goldstein
2006-08-24 18:46               ` Alec Warner
2006-08-25  7:05                 ` Robert Cernansky
2006-08-26 15:04                 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-08-26 17:00                   ` Alec Warner
2006-08-26 20:07                     ` Luis Francisco Araujo [this message]
2006-08-26 17:46                   ` Josh Saddler
2006-08-26 18:03                     ` Luis Medinas
2006-08-27  8:11                       ` Robert Cernansky
2006-08-27  8:26                         ` Mike Frysinger
2006-08-27 21:50                           ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-08-25  9:35       ` [gentoo-dev] " Christian Birchinger
2006-08-25 17:20         ` Steve Dibb
2006-08-25 18:38           ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-08-25 20:49           ` [gentoo-dev] " Alec Warner
2006-08-25 20:59             ` Luis Medinas
2006-08-27  8:04         ` Robert Cernansky
2006-08-24 12:21 ` Robin H. Johnson
2006-08-24 10:39   ` Jonathan Adamczewski
2006-08-24 12:31     ` Robert Cernansky
2006-08-24 20:28       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-08-24 10:46   ` [gentoo-dev] " Luis Medinas

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