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From: Alec Warner <antarus@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 13:00:17 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44F07E21.3020109@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200608261704.11232.pauldv@gentoo.org>

Paul de Vrieze wrote:
> On Thursday 24 August 2006 20:46, Alec Warner wrote:
>> Robert Cernansky wrote:
>>> What bothers me also, is that it has not plugin design like
>>> xmms. Support for plugins is very good because lot of people can write
>>> plugins for lot of things. This is why people do not want to switch
>>> from xmms because thanks to plugins it have so many features that
>>> currently no player is able to overcome it.
>> So port the plugins from xmms to $NEW_CLIENT, since xmms is an old piece
>> of crap.
> 
> Who cares. It works (mostly), it is lightweight, and there are enough people 
> using it to keep it in the tree. As long as things don't break beyond repair 
> I see no reason whatsoever to remove xmms (or any other largely unmaintained 
> package in the tree).
> 
> Paul
> 

This is one of those things (along with qa and security) that the
community needs to decide.  Does stuff that works but has terrible qa
stay in the tree?  Does security stuff stay in the tree, but masked?
Should xmms be masked?  We have no real way of "deprecating" a package,
aside from leaving it in the tree with a masking reason saying
"deprecated and unsupported." at which point not everything in the tree
becomes supported.

The Treecleaner project that I run is based on the assumption that
broken stuff in the tree is bad, and I try to remove the really old stuf
broken stuff first.  However I aspire to eventually "catch up" and get
to the currently broken packages.  So which way will you have it?  Or is
this more of a pragmatic stance on the tree?
-- 
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  reply	other threads:[~2006-08-26 17:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-23 20:30 [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die Luis Medinas
2006-08-23 20:47 ` Ioannis Aslanidis
2006-08-24  0:07 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-08-24  2:49   ` Luis Medinas
2006-08-24  2:58     ` Alec Warner
2006-08-24  3:11     ` Josh Saddler
2006-08-24  3:32       ` Luis Medinas
2006-08-24  0:00         ` [gentoo-dev] " Christian 'Opfer' Faulhammer
2006-08-24  9:44           ` Luis Medinas
2006-08-24  4:33         ` [gentoo-dev] " Luca Barbato
2006-08-24 13:12           ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-08-24 16:23             ` Dominique Michel
2006-08-24 19:37             ` Luca Barbato
2006-08-24 19:48               ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-08-24 19:57                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-08-24 22:41                   ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-08-25 14:41                     ` bret curtis
2006-08-24 20:07                 ` Luca Barbato
2006-08-24  4:44         ` Mike Frysinger
2006-08-24  6:40       ` Richard Fish
2006-08-24  7:01       ` Jakub Moc
2006-08-24 13:34         ` Anders Hellgren
2006-08-24 12:19 ` Robert Cernansky
2006-08-24 13:16   ` Pierre Guinoiseau
2006-08-24 13:53     ` Robert Cernansky
2006-08-24 14:01       ` Krzysiek Pawlik
2006-08-24 14:22         ` Robert Cernansky
2006-08-24 15:08           ` Andrej Kacian
2006-08-24 16:42             ` Robert Cernansky
2006-08-24 16:55               ` Adriaan Leijnse
2006-08-24 17:34               ` Andrej Kacian
2006-08-25  7:03                 ` Robert Cernansky
2006-08-27 17:46                   ` Doug Goldstein
2006-08-27 20:51                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-08-27 21:08                       ` Doug Goldstein
2006-08-24 18:46               ` Alec Warner
2006-08-25  7:05                 ` Robert Cernansky
2006-08-26 15:04                 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-08-26 17:00                   ` Alec Warner [this message]
2006-08-26 20:07                     ` Luis Francisco Araujo
2006-08-26 17:46                   ` Josh Saddler
2006-08-26 18:03                     ` Luis Medinas
2006-08-27  8:11                       ` Robert Cernansky
2006-08-27  8:26                         ` Mike Frysinger
2006-08-27 21:50                           ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-08-25  9:35       ` [gentoo-dev] " Christian Birchinger
2006-08-25 17:20         ` Steve Dibb
2006-08-25 18:38           ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-08-25 20:49           ` [gentoo-dev] " Alec Warner
2006-08-25 20:59             ` Luis Medinas
2006-08-27  8:04         ` Robert Cernansky
2006-08-24 12:21 ` Robin H. Johnson
2006-08-24 10:39   ` Jonathan Adamczewski
2006-08-24 12:31     ` Robert Cernansky
2006-08-24 20:28       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-08-24 10:46   ` [gentoo-dev] " Luis Medinas

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