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From: Donnie Berkholz <dberkholz@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Democracy: No silver bullet
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 22:38:08 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44EE8CC0.8090200@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1156458543.19720.57.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net>

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Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-08-24 at 14:54 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>> Most of these problems could be solved if we had a council that was far
>> less spineless, a council that's prepared to address the *real* issues
>> rather than doing nothing, a council that shows leadership and provides
>> direction where it's needed without screwing things up where it's not.
> 
> I definitely agree here.  What has made me decide to run for the council
> is my wish to see things improve before we honestly do start
> hemorrhaging developers.  We have seen indications that it is coming,
> but it hasn't started quite yet.  A strong leadership is needed to give
> us direction where needed, and also to leave people well enough alone
> where it is not needed.  I hope that all of the people elected to the
> council are capable of doing both, as it really is what Gentoo seems to
> need.
> 
> I also would much rather see us return to a system where the merit of
> ones work plays a more important role in the voice one has on global
> issues.  Perhaps the idea of "one man, one vote" simply doesn't work
> well amongst a large group of volunteers with vastly differing levels of
> involvement.  Perhaps more voting is the answer.  Truthfully, I do not
> know.  However, I lean on the side of a strong set of leaders having the
> authority to make decisions, with limited voting only to establish the
> leaders.  After all, if they're voted into office by the majority, then
> the majority must want them to represent them, right?

Yes, yes, yes!

Thanks,
Donnie


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  reply	other threads:[~2006-08-25  5:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-24  0:17 [gentoo-dev] Democracy: No silver bullet Donnie Berkholz
2006-08-24  2:19 ` Daniel Ostrow
2006-08-24  3:56   ` Joshua Jackson
2006-08-24  6:47 ` Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen
2006-08-24  7:52   ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-08-24  8:29     ` Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen
2006-08-24 20:28       ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-08-24  6:50 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-08-24  7:54   ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-08-24  8:26     ` Wernfried Haas
2006-08-26 20:23       ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-08-24 12:13     ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-08-24 13:35     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-08-24  8:50 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-08-24 10:39   ` Kevin F. Quinn
2006-08-24 15:13   ` Ferris McCormick
2006-08-24 21:00   ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-08-24 23:28     ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-08-25  5:36       ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-08-25  7:35         ` Andrew Cowie
2006-08-25 15:45         ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-08-25 15:55           ` Mike Doty
2006-08-25 16:08             ` Luca Barbato
2006-08-25 16:25           ` Wernfried Haas
2006-08-25 16:35             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-08-25 17:27               ` Wernfried Haas
2006-08-25 18:19                 ` Lance Albertson
2006-08-26  3:53                   ` Wernfried Haas
2006-08-26 13:40                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-08-25 18:39                 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-08-26  2:41           ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-08-25 21:48         ` Alec Warner
2006-08-26  0:43           ` Alec Warner
2006-08-25 19:41     ` Stuart Herbert
2006-08-25 19:52       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-08-26 20:55       ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-08-25 19:45     ` Stuart Herbert
2006-08-24 21:26   ` Michael Cummings
2006-08-24 21:37     ` Daniel Ostrow
2006-08-25 15:25       ` Mike Bonar
2006-08-24 13:42 ` Lance Albertson
2006-08-24 13:56   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-08-24 14:11     ` Lance Albertson
2006-08-24 14:32       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-08-24 14:58         ` Lance Albertson
2006-08-24 16:53           ` Luis Francisco Araujo
2006-08-24 18:01             ` Marius Mauch
2006-08-24 18:15               ` Luis Francisco Araujo
2006-08-24 20:09                 ` Marius Mauch
2006-08-24 20:46                   ` Luis Francisco Araujo
2006-08-24 21:51                     ` Marius Mauch
2006-08-24 22:11                       ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-08-26 20:59           ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-08-24 15:17         ` Luca Longinotti
2006-08-24 17:13       ` Thierry Carrez
2006-08-24 17:40         ` Mike Doty
2006-08-24 18:03           ` Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen
2006-08-24 18:14             ` Lance Albertson
2006-08-24 18:27               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-08-24 19:31               ` Homer Parker
2006-08-24 19:53                 ` Lance Albertson
     [not found]               ` <44EDF61C.40303@gentoo.org>
2006-08-24 19:45                 ` Daniel Ostrow
2006-08-24 18:55           ` Alec Warner
2006-08-24 19:55             ` Lance Albertson
2006-08-24 17:42         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-08-24 13:54 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-08-24 22:29   ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-08-25  5:38     ` Donnie Berkholz [this message]
2006-08-25 17:13     ` Wernfried Haas
2006-08-25 18:35       ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-08-25 19:49         ` Grant Goodyear
2006-08-26 10:17         ` Wernfried Haas
2006-08-26 13:01           ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-08-26 14:06             ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-08-24 14:32 ` [gentoo-dev] " Dominique Michel
2006-08-26 15:09 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-08-27 11:28 ` Roy Bamford
2006-08-27 21:37   ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-08-28 10:20     ` Roy Bamford
2006-09-02  7:55 ` Wiktor Wandachowicz
2006-09-03  3:11   ` Richard Fish
2006-09-03  7:15     ` Wiktor Wandachowicz
2006-09-03 19:29       ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-09-04 22:32         ` Richard Fish
2006-09-03 10:25     ` Luis Francisco Araujo
2006-09-04 22:06       ` Richard Fish

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