From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1GGGiB-0005TS-Pl for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 15:01:40 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with SMTP id k7OF0DIW025168; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 15:00:13 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k7OEw9HB000232 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 14:58:09 GMT Received: from [129.130.0.170] (unknown [129.130.0.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D983664292 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 14:58:08 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <44EDBE7E.4040503@gentoo.org> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 09:58:06 -0500 From: Lance Albertson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060813) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Democracy: No silver bullet References: <44ECF00D.7050107@gentoo.org> <44EDACD8.6060900@gentoo.org> <20060824145628.5bad7e89@snowdrop.home> <44EDB3A8.5000305@gentoo.org> <20060824153221.549704c8@snowdrop.home> In-Reply-To: <20060824153221.549704c8@snowdrop.home> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig1BB683DEF0DF563BEDBF27B3" X-Archives-Salt: 744b76bb-b4bb-46cd-a63e-46db5aca8391 X-Archives-Hash: d133ded94a106de0d5eb02f5a3ffc98e This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig1BB683DEF0DF563BEDBF27B3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 09:11:52 -0500 Lance Albertson > wrote: > | I partially agree that a strong council will help the situation, but > | the problem with any leadership-by-committee model is the lack of > | quick decisions. Many times things come up that need a quick > | resolution (when I say quick, I mean within a few days). And if you > | have a committee of 7 or so people that live in several different > | timezones, its extremely hard to get them together to discuss it all.= >=20 > Mmm, afaics there's nothing preventing the council from having quick, > 'as needed' informal interim meetings with whoever happens to be around= =2E > If a few people aren't there, it's not as big a deal as if people don't= > show up to the monthly meetings. Heck, the monthly meetings could be > considered a minimum... True, that might work, but then you run the risk of losing cohesion of what everyone knows. To me, the same person(s) should be at all those meetings if possible. Its better to have one or two people who know whats going on with all council-related stuff than one here, one there. It can become disjointed rather easily. > | The council has its merits, but it also has its weaknesses, this one > | being one of them. I think I mentioned 6mo ago that we could keep the= > | council, but select one person to sort of be the "operational lead" > | to make quick decisions so that development moves on. >=20 > What happens if he or she (ok, he) isn't around? Is the flexibility of > having a single "on the spot decision" leader enough to outweigh the > disadvantages over allowing mini meetings? I thought of that while I was walking to a meeting..heh Basically, Appoint two people to co-lead, or appoint one Lead and one Vice Lead. That way there's some kind of accountability on the bare minimum level and good coverage (hopefully). --=20 Lance Albertson Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: Key fingerprint: 0423 92F3 544A 1282 5AB1 4D07 416F A15D 27F4 B742 ramereth/irc.freenode.net --------------enig1BB683DEF0DF563BEDBF27B3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFE7b5+QW+hXSf0t0IRAgJHAJ9KIsSdHEUXiVQ5nU8t/gPE/TbDCwCgtfcu RVMMVDkVNF/EbUeDDe4EeGg= =mYyg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig1BB683DEF0DF563BEDBF27B3-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list