Re: [gentoo-dev] Democracy: No silver bullet

[Joshua Jackson <tsunam@gentoo.org>]

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Daniel Ostrow wrote:
> <snip a bunch>
>
>> If I could go back in time a couple of years and prevent this democracy
>> from ever happening, I would. If I could fix these problems myself, I
>> would. But it requires buy-in from the entire Gentoo community if we're
>> to do anything about it.
>
> </snip a bunch>
>
> First of suffice it to say that many a time in the past (and that is sad
> to say as I have only been a dev for just over two years) I have been
> privy to whispered murmurs that happen in back rooms behind closed
> doors. These whispers have always come about when one of the
> aforementioned log threads have come about and the penultimate
> conclusion of every one is that the problem that Gentoo presently faces
> is in fact too much freedom.
I think we all hear some of the back room mummers depending on who we
talk to. Some of us hear more then others, some less. However, we all
have friends that we feel that we can talk to fairly freely about
these issues.

>  Bitching and complaining be
> damned; part of what paralyzes us is an acquiescence to that vocal
> minority. None of us want to deal with hearing the outcry so no-one does
> what is needed. Basically I'm saying that while some level of acceptance
> has to come from the community as a whole and some level of it has to
> come from the top down whatever the outcome.
I'm going to call bullshit on this one, I don't believe you have 4
fours (i have one!).
Erm, what this isn't the game of bullshit? Oh well...erm *runs* Its
not that no one wants to do anything, its that they've seen that if
someone does stand up and take on the vocal minority. That being that
they are the ones that actually get beaten up by the very ones who
acquiescence and allow that minority to continue to do what they do.
If you have an issue, stand up and quite honestly, have the balls to
take the issue up with the people you have it with. I full expect
people to come talk to me if they have issues, with me or anyone. I'm
willing to listen either way. I'd like to think everyone else feels
the same.
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