Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

[Josh Saddler <nightmorph@gentoo.org>]

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Luis Medinas wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-08-23 at 20:07 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
>> On Wednesday 23 August 2006 16:30, Luis Medinas wrote:
>>> So i'm asking for a solution either remove xmms, move the maintainer for
>>> anyone who volunteer or the sound herd.
>> no one has answered the previous problems ... xmms is the only audioplayer 
>> that actually works on some platforms ...
>>
> Most of the gstreamer audio players works just like xine-lib based.
> 
>> plus, has the audacious/gcc-4.1 issues been worked out ?
>>
>>> My plans now is replace xmms for xmms2 (that i would like to take the
>>> maintainership). Opinions ? Ideas ?
>> even if you were to do that right now, xmms2 isnt even close to being ready to 
>> replace xmms
> 
> Yes you are right but atm xmms is obsolete and there is place for
> another player. Xmms2 is a good player that needs of course ages of
> development to be able to be like xmms.

Please don't remove it, and don't replace it with xmms2. There are far too many
media type plugins that work for xmms that audacious and similar players can't
handle. Also, will xmms plugins even work in xmms2? And isn't xmms2 still a
command line-only application? Not what users need or want. Perhaps the most
compelling reason to keep xmms around and *not* use xmms2 is the one you just made:

> Xmms2 is a good player that needs of course ages of
> development to be able to be like xmms.

So, don't dump a product that's not even near alpha status on users. If we want
to keep using software that's old, but works just fine, why force a really
stupid switch?

Can you provide a list of open fairly important bugs for xmms that provide good
examples of why you don't want to maintain it? Just so we can see your reasoning.

You may think xmms is obsolete, but it has a pretty decent niche among the
available player choices; I know I'm not alone in my affinity for it. Please
keep it. At the very least, if it has to go, don't dump a half-assed alternative
like xmms2 on the users -- sure, xmm2 shows a lot of promise, but it's simply
not ready. xmms is stable; might as well keep it around until we're so far into
future gcc versions that it (and gtk-1) just won't compile any longer on any
arch. ;)
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