Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

[Lance Albertson <ramereth@gentoo.org>]

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Simon Stelling wrote:
> Lance Albertson wrote:
>> Frankly, the attitude of a lot devs lately towards infra
>> have made many of us not want to communicate what we're doing. If we're
> 
> I can understand that, partly. But that won't help anyone. Assuming
> you're not thinking *nobody* outside infra does respect you, try to
> write the status report for those who you feel respected by. It will
> even make those happy who didn't respect you and maybe even make them
> respect you again because they see that a genuine effort is made to
> solve a problem that buggers them.

I'll see about sending an email in the next few days. Basically, we're
making progress on the bugzie end.

>> not getting respected by you, then why should we respect you back? At
>> least for me personally, I don't hold any personal grudges against
>> anyone unless you stop respecting the group and/or me. Personally, I
>> think the larger problem in Gentoo itself is the attitudes of many
>> developers. Communication aside, it means nothing if we can't deal with
>> each other in a semi-professional manner. It seems like mini-flame
>> explosions on irc/email have happened more frequently in the last few
>> months. This is just going to make the group implode if nothing is done
>> about it.
> 
> Respect is something that should be applied unconditionally, in my
> opinion. The "you don't so I won't" attitude gets us nowhere.
> 

I generally try to do that, but after the 10th time the person doesn't
respect you and demands things from you, its kind of hard to keep that
mentality.

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Lance Albertson <ramereth@gentoo.org>
Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager

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