From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1G9Hde-0001hM-Cd for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 08:36:06 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with SMTP id k758ZE7t019174; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 08:35:14 GMT Received: from theory.elixant5.com (66.32.232.72.reverse.layeredtech.com [72.232.32.66] (may be forged)) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k758X9Kh011754 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 08:33:10 GMT Received: from adsl-68-125-30-189.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net ([68.125.30.189] helo=[172.16.1.34]) by theory.elixant5.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.52) id 1G9Hah-0002lC-RH for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 03:33:04 -0500 Message-ID: <44D457B2.5020608@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 01:32:50 -0700 From: Peter Gordon Organization: Gentoo Linux Staff User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060802) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo's Social Contract & Bugzilla References: <886253338-1154701653-cardhu_blackberry.rim.net-693078490-@bwe059-cell00.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <200608041622.05829.mattm@gentoo.org> <44D3D87B.8040905@gentoo.org> <44D3DE0F.9020401@gentoo.org> <44D44498.9000907@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <44D44498.9000907@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 OpenPGP: id=FFC19479; url=http://thecodergeek.com/peter.asc Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig3F152BA7798D191040E0B5C2" X-Elixant-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Elixant-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-Elixant-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-Elixant-MailScanner-From: codergeek42@gentoo.org X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - theory.elixant5.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.gentoo.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - gentoo.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Archives-Salt: 52eb1c81-6aa6-4f7b-9fc3-4d3d49031eb1 X-Archives-Hash: 9e0454c6818e3fcafcfd32b5cfb04b74 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig3F152BA7798D191040E0B5C2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Luis Francisco Araujo wrote: > I think it is perfectly valid we use this kind of tools for development= ; > as far as i know, our SC refers to those components (in form of softwar= e > and metadata) to be free software upon which a user depend to build a > Gentoo system, and this isn't one of those components. Though i admit i= t > might bring some kind of 'controversy' . I've got no problem with people wanting to actively use proprietary software instead of F/OSS alternatives because of much better features, security record, etc. (Here's where that phpBB vs vBulletin example comes to mind again.) Heck, it's their choice, right? My quarrel is with the fact that this would be the designated tool for full development usage and whatnot. However, I don't believe that Bugzilla is such a separate entity from the distribution as a whole. I, for one, would simply stop reporting bugs there if it was switched to a proprietary bug-tracking tool. Now, one could say that this isn't much of a problem (since it's all entirely voluntary, right?); but think of this on a grander scale of other F/OSS advocates: you would have much less community involvement. One of the core foundations, as I see it, of a community-driven Linux distribution such as Gentoo is exactly that: the community. Bugzilla provides a reasonably-somewhat-sane infrastructure to keep track of the various bugs, issues, and feature requests being put forth by its users and is one of the primary methods of communication between the user and developer camps. Regards. --=20 Peter Gordon (codergeek42) Gentoo Forums Global Moderator GnuPG Public Key ID: 0xFFC19479 / Fingerprint: DD68 A414 56BD 6368 D957 9666 4268 CB7A FFC1 9479 My Blog: http://thecodergeek.com/blog/ --------------enig3F152BA7798D191040E0B5C2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE1Fe4QmjLev/BlHkRAiEYAJ9A0f9rM9Ythrpq24dHHJZICM6+MgCgjRS+ 5x/OlYuIBP0TvwAuZ1QpE4g= =J2Fb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig3F152BA7798D191040E0B5C2-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list