From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1G9GLe-0000in-2b for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 07:13:26 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with SMTP id k757Chov017750; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 07:12:43 GMT Received: from rs26s12.datacenter.cha.cantv.net (rs26s12.datacenter.cha.cantv.net [200.44.33.31]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k757AreF031243 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 07:10:53 GMT Received: from localhost (dC9D1370B.dslam-01-3-15-01-1-01.smg.dsl.cantv.net [201.209.55.11]) by rs26s12.datacenter.cha.cantv.net (8.13.4/8.13.0/3.0) with ESMTP id k757AqcA025062 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 03:10:52 -0400 X-Matched-Lists: [] Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G9GJc-0000RJ-UR for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 03:11:20 -0400 Message-ID: <44D44498.9000907@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 03:11:20 -0400 From: Luis Francisco Araujo User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060612) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo's Social Contract & Bugzilla References: <886253338-1154701653-cardhu_blackberry.rim.net-693078490-@bwe059-cell00.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <200608041622.05829.mattm@gentoo.org> <44D3D87B.8040905@gentoo.org> <44D3DE0F.9020401@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <44D3DE0F.9020401@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.3, clamav-milter version 0.88.3 on 10.128.1.27 X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Archives-Salt: 5899954d-d4ff-4638-a966-ccf2af9279fc X-Archives-Hash: 21fe86073189f19e7d33e9c1f8548d1e -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Lance Albertson wrote: > Peter Gordon wrote: >> Matthew Marlowe wrote: >>> If we could get a license donated, my vote would be to switch to Atlassian >>> Jira, http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira. It seems to be gaining >>> mindshare rather quickly, and the company I work for just shelled out $2,400 >>> because they liked it so much more than RT/Bugzilla. I believe it supports >>> multiple DB backends, including all the usual suspects. >> Maybe it's just me, but I think that having such a core component of the >> distribution be proprietary is in complete violation of Gentoo's Social >> Contract[1] (if not the letter of it, then its spirit of openness). It >> states: >> >> "Gentoo will never never depend upon a piece of software or >> metadata unless it conforms to the GNU General Public License, >> the GNU Lesser General Public License, the Creative Commons - >> Attribution/Share Alike or some other license approved by the >> Open Source Initiative (OSI)." >> >> Isn't this one of the driving reasons why our forums run phpBB instead >> of something like vBulletin, for example? :) >> >> [1] http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/contract.xml > > I'm not entirely sure if this is directed towards the supporting web > applications or of Gentoo itself. To me its directed towards the meta > distribution and not any of the underlying support mechanisms of Gentoo. > If we were to use some non-gpl webapp, the underlying Gentoo system you > run does not depend on a non-gpl piece of software. A bug tracking > system is not an underlying component of Gentoo. Its just a tool that > helps with development of Gentoo. > > But anyways, some people view it in the strict sense and they're > entitled to it. That's just how I view it when I read it. Its a bit > vague on what Gentoo really is. Is it talking only about the meta > distribution? Or that plus the underlying supporting systems that help > run Gentoo? > I think it is perfectly valid we use this kind of tools for development; as far as i know, our SC refers to those components (in form of software and metadata) to be free software upon which a user depend to build a Gentoo system, and this isn't one of those components. Though i admit it might bring some kind of 'controversy' . /me remenbers bitkeeper - -- Luis F. Araujo "araujo at gentoo.org" Gentoo Linux -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFE1ESYdZ42PGEF17URApflAKCAkBVcgD5hgS0ASFyNXz3wS1Mx5ACg6Tov IjDaN+ENPP1t9nckRAsf2ZA= =6fxU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list