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From: Luis Francisco Araujo <araujo@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo's Social Contract & Bugzilla
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 03:11:20 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44D44498.9000907@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44D3DE0F.9020401@gentoo.org>

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Lance Albertson wrote:
> Peter Gordon wrote:
>> Matthew Marlowe wrote:
>>> If we could get a license donated, my vote would be to switch to Atlassian 
>>> Jira, http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira.   It seems to be gaining 
>>> mindshare rather quickly, and the company I work for just shelled out $2,400 
>>> because they liked it so much more than RT/Bugzilla. I believe it supports 
>>> multiple DB backends, including all the usual suspects.  
>> Maybe it's just me, but I think that having such a core component of the
>> distribution be proprietary is in complete violation of Gentoo's Social
>> Contract[1] (if not the letter of it, then its spirit of openness). It
>> states:
>> 	
>> 	"Gentoo will never never depend upon a piece of software or
>> 	metadata unless it conforms to the GNU General Public License,
>> 	the GNU Lesser General Public License, the Creative Commons -
>> 	Attribution/Share Alike or some other license approved by the
>> 	Open Source Initiative (OSI)."
>>
>> Isn't this one of the driving reasons why our forums run phpBB instead
>> of something like vBulletin, for example? :)
>>
>> [1] http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/contract.xml
> 
> I'm not entirely sure if this is directed towards the supporting web
> applications or of Gentoo itself. To me its directed towards the meta
> distribution and not any of the underlying support mechanisms of Gentoo.
>  If we were to use some non-gpl webapp, the underlying Gentoo system you
> run does not depend on a non-gpl piece of software. A bug tracking
> system is not an underlying component of Gentoo. Its just a tool that
> helps with development of Gentoo.
> 
> But anyways, some people view it in the strict sense and they're
> entitled to it. That's just how I view it when I read it. Its a bit
> vague on what Gentoo really is. Is it talking only about the meta
> distribution? Or that plus the underlying supporting systems that help
> run Gentoo?
> 

I think it is perfectly valid we use this kind of tools for development;
as far as i know, our SC refers to those components (in form of software
and metadata) to be free software upon which a user depend to build a
Gentoo system, and this isn't one of those components. Though i admit it
might bring some kind of 'controversy' .

/me remenbers bitkeeper

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Luis F. Araujo "araujo at gentoo.org"
Gentoo Linux


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  reply	other threads:[~2006-08-05  7:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <886253338-1154701653-cardhu_blackberry.rim.net-693078490-@bwe059-cell00.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
2006-08-04 23:22 ` [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August Matthew Marlowe
2006-08-04 23:30   ` Gentoo's Social Contract & Bugzilla (was: "Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August") Peter Gordon
2006-08-04 23:37     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-08-04 23:42       ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo's Social Contract & Bugzilla Peter Gordon
2006-08-04 23:53     ` Lance Albertson
2006-08-05  7:11       ` Luis Francisco Araujo [this message]
2006-08-05  8:32         ` Peter Gordon
2006-08-05 10:07           ` Wernfried Haas
     [not found] <1003509466-1154735876-cardhu_blackberry.rim.net-316651646-@bwe002-cell00.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
2006-08-05  0:24 ` Matthew Marlowe
2006-08-05  0:29   ` Jakub Moc
2006-08-05  0:59     ` Ciaran McCreesh

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