From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1G8Dcp-0007YW-J4 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 10:06:52 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with SMTP id k72A63Bc020516; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 10:06:03 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k72A2c9l009488 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 10:02:38 GMT Received: from [62.147.153.16] (lns-bzn-48f-62-147-153-16.adsl.proxad.net [62.147.153.16]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D8CF645B6 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 10:02:37 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <44D077D8.3030907@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 12:00:56 +0200 From: Thierry Carrez Organization: Gentoo Linux User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060704) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Sunrise contemplations References: <1154366720.17142.126.camel@rivendell> In-Reply-To: <1154366720.17142.126.camel@rivendell> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 2f86ecba-89d2-4565-8fcd-ee2770781b27 X-Archives-Hash: 6430f41d09463a5d5bd6d868963c27b2 foser wrote: > I checked back on the initial announcement, where it Sunrise was made > public as an official Gentoo project without any prior discussion. The > announcement actually stated 'This is an announcement - No flamewars > allowed'. I guess the creators were already aware of the feelings of > some other developers on this issue and decided to just go ahead instead > of going through the proper channels (GLEP?) and do things as they > wished. As we all know this can be very effective, but this particular > time one of the largest and longest ongoing 'discussions' in Gentoo's > history ensued. > If you know it's flamewar material, why do you go ahead > so bluntly with your project ? Why not go trough the proper channels and > discuss it beforehand in a public place ? That's just the way to do it. Excerpt from the metastructure model, chosen by the majority of devs last year (and not my model): http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0039.html ================================================= A project is a group of developers working towards a goal (or a set of goals). * A project exists if it has a web page at www.g.o/proj/en/whatever that is maintained. ("Maintained" means that the information on the page is factually correct and not out-of-date.) If the webpage isn't maintained, it is presumed dead. * It may have one or many leads, and the leads are selected by the members of the project. This selection must occur at least once every 12 months, and may occur at any time. * It may have zero or more sub-projects. Sub-projects are just projects that provide some additional structure, and their web pages are in the project's space. * Not everything (or everyone) needs a project. * Projects need not be long-term. * Projects may well conflict with other projects. That's okay. * Any dev may create a new project just by creating a new page (or, more realistically, directory and page) in gentoo/xml/htdocs/proj/en. ================================================= So you can create projects by creating a directory in gentoo/xml/htdocs/proj/en, you don't have to announce it (but it's polite to do so), and it may well conflict with other projects, that's okay. You can't blame them for following the right rule. You can blame the rule, though. -- Koon -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list