From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1G7U0Y-00089d-Jr for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 09:24:19 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with SMTP id k6V9NT5A025728; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 09:23:29 GMT Received: from smtp.top-hosting.cz (gw.top-hosting.cz [81.0.254.91]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6V9LYkW008272 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 09:21:34 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.top-hosting.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 355395349D6 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:21:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp.top-hosting.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.top-hosting.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 29329-06-6 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:21:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (7.201.broadband6.iol.cz [88.101.201.7]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.top-hosting.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DC3C51821D for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:21:23 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <44CDCB8D.7040803@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:21:17 +0200 From: Jakub Moc User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060719) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Resignation References: <200607301751.14157.vapier@gentoo.org> <20060730230757.5c17c0e9@snowdrop.home> <200607302219.56872.vapier@gentoo.org> <20060731033525.1db4ccc2@snowdrop.home> <1154314231.11516.10.camel@localhost> <20060731084429.GD16543@woodpecker.gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <20060731084429.GD16543@woodpecker.gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 OpenPGP: url=http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCEBA3D9E Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-ripemd160; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig00F0CDACF947BB484A80D86F" X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new 2.3.3 (20050822) at top-hosting.cz X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.998 tagged_above=-999 required=6 tests=[AWL=-0.999, BAYES_50=0.001] X-Spam-Score: -0.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Archives-Salt: 23b42bf1-54af-4636-9df7-68812cb07951 X-Archives-Hash: 2365904eefd83520a72766b6d07c2625 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig00F0CDACF947BB484A80D86F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bryan A~stergaard wrote: > Left in a huff? I'm sorry but I don't think you fully understand the > reasons for Brix leaving. After Sunrise was suspended by the council > there was a meeting [1] between brix, the sunrise leads (genstef and > jokey), christel (representing user relations), myself and one or two > other people that showed an interest in the meeting (primarily antarus)= =2E >=20 > At that meeting we tried to figure out what the outstanding issues were= > and how they could be solved. The outcome of the meeting was that > sunrise was to stay as an unofficial project until those issues were > solved - I'd like to remind everybody that genstef and jokey agreed on > this. Furthermore Brix was to write up his proposal on how to reach the= > goals of sunrise in a more acceptable way (to him and other people > uneasy with the current sunrise project). >=20 > Before this could even happen genstef took upon himself to tell the > council that all outstanding problems have been solved although I > haven't seen *any* progress regarding the issues raised on that meeting= =2E >=20 > I don't know if genstefs memory is just extremely bad or if he > purposefully misled the council or something entirely different. That's= > not really my point either. >=20 > *This is my point* - Brix sees sunrise in it's current form as a projec= t > with great potential to harm Gentoo. He agrees with the goals but not > the implementation. And no matter how hard he works at solving the > problems he sees genstef, jokey and the council have mostly ignored him= > by unsuspending the project. I certainly don't blame Brix if he sees no= > further possibility for correcting those problems and instead chooses t= o > leave the project. Well, huh??? Looks like you've missed the -dev ML thread altogether, as did brix (despite it was himself who started it, as Mike has already pointed out). Brix didn't write any proposal and didn't raise any specific objections when called for, then he goes to leave b/c the project has been unsuspended? Sorry, I really fail to see how is this council's fault (or any Sunrise project member's fault for that matter). --=20 Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:jakub@gentoo.org GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=3Dget&search=3D0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprint: D2D7 933C 9BA1 C95B 2C95 B30F 8717 D5FD CEBA 3= D9E ... still no signature ;) --------------enig00F0CDACF947BB484A80D86F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEzcuShxfV/c66PZ4RAwDGAJ9ImDMng8h+bSfIPja/ft/0SgXu/ACggicE CGgxIyPtL5jopgT8Or9zN8M= =Pn4T -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig00F0CDACF947BB484A80D86F-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list