From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-dev+bounces-14213-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@gentoo.org>) id 1FtkFe-0007y8-9z for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 11:55:06 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with SMTP id k5NBrUrs024286; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 11:53:30 GMT Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5NBodER002374 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 11:50:40 GMT Received: from 146-115-26-214.c3-0.abr-ubr1.sbo-abr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO [192.168.1.3]) ([146.115.26.214]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 23 Jun 2006 07:52:26 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.06,168,1149480000"; d="scan'208"; a="227124050:sNHT26365636" Message-ID: <449BD583.6090808@gentoo.org> Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 06:50:27 -0500 From: Joshua Nichols <nichoj@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060618) Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org, java@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla usage for overlays' projects [was: sunrise, a temporary compromise] References: <449B305B.20909@gentoo.org> <449B72CD.5050903@gentoo.org> <b38c6f4c0606222312g22070976v25457a97e03e5713@mail.gmail.com> <Pine.LNX.4.64.0606230848430.27216@1-2-12-5a.gfa.gbg.bostream.se> <449BAB07.6080906@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <449BAB07.6080906@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: d803fc6c-60ab-4182-a4b3-b2ef834896d2 X-Archives-Hash: d7ac4bb4cba03a7fe44aa2d684dd7cff Jakub Moc wrote: > Anders Hellgren wrote: >> On Fri, 23 Jun 2006, Stuart Herbert wrote: >> >>>> On 6/23/06, Donnie Berkholz <spyderous@gentoo.org> wrote: >>>>> I'm amazingly confused about why technical policy decisions (and even >>>>> discussions about them) are being made by devrel in a devrel-specific >>>>> channel. Could someone clear me up on this? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Donnie >>>> Sorry, but I must second this, especially as discussions have also >>>> been continuing that (unlike Mike's discussion) actually included >>>> council members. >>>> >>>> I'm all for folks trying to help resolve the Sunrise issues, but I >>>> feel that it's not devrel's place to be deciding this particular >>>> policy issue, especially when the issue has already been referred to >>>> the council. >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> Stu >>>> >> FWIW, there was almost an hour's worth of discussion before the start of >> the log KingTaco posted. As a bystander, my guess is that the discussion >> took place in the devrel channel because a complaint about the use of >> the bugzilla whiteboard by the sunrise folks was brought up in that >> channel. The compromise was made to defuse further escalation to a >> formal complaint to devrel. >> >> /Anders >> -- Anders Hellgren (kallamej) >> Gentoo Forums Administrator > > OK, so - java folks, please, take your java migration overlay bugs > somewhere else from bugzilla. You know very well I had no problem w/ > assigning them, I just requested them to be clearly marked as such > (which the users have been doing, thank you for that). Since some > developers consider such use of bugzilla as misuse of Gentoo > infrastructure and have gone so far that they involved devrel in this > discussion, I'm not going to assign those bugs any more. > > Your 'thank you' goes especially to brix, your complaints go to devrel > as a body that proclaimed themselves empowered to decide on acceptable > bugzilla usage. There's no technical difference between using bugzilla > for unofficial java migration overlay hosted on gentooexperimental.org > and using it for unofficial overlay hosted on gentoo-sunrise.org (and > even usage of keywords and status whiteboard for unofficial overlays > counts as a misuse of bugzilla here). Devrel's current policy clearly is > that bugzilla may only be used for official overlays hosted on > overlays.gentoo.org, > > > Sorry for the inconvenience, not my fault. > Umm.... maybe it's just to early in the morning, but I don't see anything in the logs regarding using bugzilla for overlays not on overlays.gentoo.org. I only see references to sunrise specifically, not a blanket statement for all non-overlays.gentoo.org overlays Or was this part of a discussion / decision that wasn't on this mailing list...? Josh -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list