From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Fs1Qy-0000z1-9I for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 17:51:40 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with SMTP id k5IHo3vf003205; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 17:50:03 GMT Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5IHkaXY007517 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 17:46:37 GMT Received: from 146-115-26-214.c3-0.abr-ubr1.sbo-abr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO [192.168.1.6]) ([146.115.26.214]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 18 Jun 2006 13:48:17 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.06,147,1149480000"; d="scan'208"; a="224421666:sNHT24807992" Message-ID: <4495917D.8000206@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 12:46:37 -0500 From: Joshua Nichols User-Agent: Mail/News 1.5 (X11/20060326) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Changes to the way Java packages are built References: <4495739A.3040603@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: f9933da7-5a32-406e-b89d-d10fcf89efa6 X-Archives-Hash: 3215f04965cb32ca91bef7ca80240ea4 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Duncan wrote: > Joshua Nichols posted 4495739A.3040603@gentoo.org, > excerpted below, on Sun, 18 Jun 2006 10:39:06 -0500: > >> I have written documentation on switching to the new system, from the >> user's perspective, over at our wiki [6] >> >> [6] >> https://projects.gentooexperimental.org/expj/wiki/Using_migration-overlay > > Are there instructions somewhere for keeping to a 100% freedomware > solution? I've been wondering about installing Java, but don't consider > slaveryware a viable local option, thus the question. (FWIW, in the general > case I couldn't install whatever binary legally if I wanted to, since I > couldn't agree to the EULA, tho I've not examined the Sun/Blackdown EULAs > recently to see if this would apply there, as they still aren't > freedomware and are thus still not an option.) > > If it's not yet possible (or no documentation that will work for a non-Java > guy), is there a timetable? No rush or even pressure to do it if you > aren't, but thought I'd ask while the topic is hot. I did try the given > URL as well as the Gentoo Java Guide, but the former seemed to presuppose > someone already involved in testing (understandable at this stage), and > the latter didn't seem to mention any of the newer 100% freedomware > alternatives I keep reading about. Thus, there was no answer I could grok. This is a bit off topic for the subject at hand... That being said... one of our users has been working on using GCJ to this end: https://projects.gentooexperimental.org/expj/wiki/GCJ_as_a_JDK As for why this hasn't been done already or more work isn't being done, I believe there are two reasons: 1) We don't have the same restriction as Fedora and Debian do with regard to licensing. If we did, then we'd have a more pressing need to use 'free' Java implementations to even distribute Java stuff. 2) No one has stepped up with the desire / motivation / skills to make it happen. Not only that, but the Java team in generally has been understaffed for some time now. Josh -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFElZF98ATTzZyw6sMRAmPRAJ9h/dcuRWayki0wmICgsataMdibOQCeKXMU PyYu7srJmtjejwJZxQVtFUU= =ZQQc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list