From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FptfU-0005dX-VZ for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 21:09:53 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id k5CL6uw1028978; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 21:06:56 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5CL1jFM007569 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 21:01:46 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4920064510; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 21:01:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13605-01; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 21:01:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.gnqs.org (myrddraal.demon.co.uk [62.49.28.63]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F369648E1; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 21:01:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.160.160] (helo=[192.168.198.130]) by mail.gnqs.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FptXQ-0001F1-QS; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 22:01:33 +0100 Message-ID: <448DD62C.1090802@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 22:01:32 +0100 From: Stuart Herbert User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060604 Thunderbird/1.5.0.4 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org CC: council@gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-dev] Project Sunrise overlay suspended pending Council resolution X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 OpenPGP: id=F9AFC57C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: Spam detection software, running on the system "demandred.gnqs.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi everyone, Despite the best efforts of a lot of folks off-list (you know who you are, and many thanks to you all), it hasn't been possible to sort out the disagreements between the Sunrise project and other Gentoo developers. [...] Content analysis details: (-4.4 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.8 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.433 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.031, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.433 X-Spam-Level: X-Archives-Salt: dd94a934-2642-478c-92ce-b73a6de6824f X-Archives-Hash: e74c50717c82c1fa37982f745ff6e311 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi everyone, Despite the best efforts of a lot of folks off-list (you know who you are, and many thanks to you all), it hasn't been possible to sort out the disagreements between the Sunrise project and other Gentoo developers. Brix came to me (as o.g.o lead) this afternoon to complain about the Sunrise project being on o.g.o. We discussed the situation, and agreed that there simply isn't a consensus about whether or not the Sunrise project should exist. My personal position is that o.g.o is a resource for the *whole* of Gentoo; all projects, all devs, and all users. That includes Sunrise, as long as they are a Gentoo project. By _permanently_ kicking Sunrise off o.g.o, we'd effectively be shutting down the project, and telling the folks behind it that their work on it isn't welcome inside Gentoo. That's not my decision to make, as o.g.o lead. That decision rightly belongs with the Council. I'm referring this to the Council for them to decide. I've suspended the Sunrise overlay on o.g.o until the Council has decided things one way or another. The wiki has been switched to read-only, and the subversion repository is no longer accessible at all. This has been discussed in advance with both sides, and both sides have agreed that this is the right course of action to take. In particular I'd like to thank the Sunrise folks for agreeing to this, in an effort to focus the on-going discussion on how the project can best benefit Gentoo as a whole. The #gentoo-sunrise channel continues to exist, and the folks in there are continuing to refine their plans for the project. The project isn't dead, and if the Council decide that Sunrise can continue, the overlay can be re-activated within a few minutes. Best regards, Stu - -- Stuart Herbert stuart@gentoo.org Gentoo Developer http://www.gentoo.org/ ~ http://blog.stuartherbert.com/ GnuPG key id# F9AFC57C available from http://pgp.mit.edu Key fingerprint = 31FB 50D4 1F88 E227 F319 C549 0C2F 80BA F9AF C57C - -- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEjdYrDC+AuvmvxXwRAgNzAJ9e9An2GA1kXuM0df/CzeTFUdQK5gCdEg2D tusKVxDj/xqbXUYLmZMPOzw= =Js21 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list