From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FpHSy-0003To-OW for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 04:22:25 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id k5B4LZ3q002733; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 04:21:35 GMT Received: from rs25s9.datacenter.cha.cantv.net (rs25s9.datacenter.cha.cantv.net [200.44.33.101]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5B4JXAI031912 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 04:19:34 GMT Received: from localhost (dC9D13795.dslam-01-3-15-01-1-01.smg.dsl.cantv.net [201.209.55.149]) by rs25s9.datacenter.cha.cantv.net (8.13.4/8.13.0/3.0) with ESMTP id k5AB4gtP008086 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 07:04:42 -0400 X-Matched-Lists: [] Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost with esmtp (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1Fp1I1-0003Iz-IP for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 07:06:01 -0400 Message-ID: <448AA799.3060005@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 07:06:01 -0400 From: Luis Francisco Araujo User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060530) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] July Council Meeting: Requested Agenda Item References: <1149906516.4234.91.camel@gaspode> <200606101027.26418.george@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <200606101027.26418.george@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.2, clamav-milter version 0.88.2 on rs25s9.datacenter.cha.cantv.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by robin.gentoo.org id k5B4LZ5c002733 X-Archives-Salt: 7fce13b9-69ba-4f23-8c26-ee7caffb8aa0 X-Archives-Hash: 3271f30e6a67cee1d60b9a55af2047cf George Shapovalov wrote: > =D1=81=D1=83=D0=B1=D0=BE=D1=82=D0=B0, 10. =D1=87=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B2=D0=B5= =D0=BD=D1=8C 2006 04:28, Christel Dahlskjaer =D0=92=D0=B8 =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0= =BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB=D0=B8: > =20 >> I would like to ask that the Council discuss the current state and >> future of the GWN at their next meeting. >> =20 > Hah? What has concil to do with this? Is it going to mandate "GWN be be= tter"=20 > and it magically turns into some other thing? Why do you think there is= =20 > malicious intent here at all? > > [skipping the listing] > All these problems can be explained very simply - a lack of manpower. A= s I=20 > understand, GWN now is a one-man endeavour and Ulrich was pointing this= out=20 > himself and literally yelling for help! Many many times! Over approx la= st 6=20 > month or so.. > > Do we want a more reliable and representative GWN? Of course! > How we can get there? Well, stand up and help! Involving council is not= going=20 > to do anything besides starting yet another pointless burocratic endeav= or.=20 > Well, I suspect it won't do even that - I am pretty sure council is goi= ng to=20 > just throw out this "claim" even if you officially start it. They can o= f=20 > course mandate some more action, but what would be the point? If there = are no=20 > people willing to stand up, then who will listen to it? > > So, to conclude this thing. The only way GWN is going to improve, is if= some=20 > more people will "join the ranks" and start writing/editing GWN entries= . I'd=20 > say a team of 3 people is usually sufficient, but we need more like 7 s= o that=20 > three are "available" for more than a first month :) (this is based on = my=20 > experience with organazing Russian transation team in its early days), = plus a=20 > steady stream of at least one new dev joining/two month, to compensate = for=20 > people droppig out. This should also have an effect of draft GWN publis= hed at=20 > least a day in advance, instead of a few hours, so that the rest of us = will=20 > be able (and will ;)) take a look at it and make corrections.. > > George=20 > > =20 That's true. Ulrich has been asking desperately for help since a few=20 months now. I propose we ask for contributors in the staffing-needs section instead=20 or before taking this council way. --=20 gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list