From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FoVoZ-00039k-Ms for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 09 Jun 2006 01:29:32 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id k591RpgA019916; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 01:27:51 GMT Received: from rs25s3.datacenter.cha.cantv.net (rs25s3.datacenter.cha.cantv.net [200.44.33.4]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k591NpP2026400 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 01:23:51 GMT Received: from localhost (dC9D13795.dslam-01-3-15-01-1-01.smg.dsl.cantv.net [201.209.55.149]) by rs25s3.datacenter.cha.cantv.net (8.13.4/8.13.0/3.0) with ESMTP id k591Noi6016484 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 21:23:50 -0400 X-Matched-Lists: [] Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost with esmtp (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FoVkK-0002CI-P5 for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 21:25:08 -0400 Message-ID: <4488CDF4.1060009@gentoo.org> Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 21:25:08 -0400 From: Luis Francisco Araujo User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060530) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANNOUNCE] Project Sunrise - Gentoo User Overlay References: <1149772819.19443.10.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> <20060608093213.e0ccb189.tcort@gentoo.org> <20060608144145.GA7696@cerberus.oppresses.us> <44883E56.7050506@gentoo.org> <1149781533.18059.30.camel@rivendell> <623652d50606080948i4a16f875tdfd4931d9a4bc1c1@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <623652d50606080948i4a16f875tdfd4931d9a4bc1c1@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.2, clamav-milter version 0.88.2 on rs25s3.datacenter.cha.cantv.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Archives-Salt: 709e7ef4-1a27-4882-8170-b35d5528bc71 X-Archives-Hash: d8ea3fd8ca812dce50cda4e9c003fac8 Chris Bainbridge wrote: > On 08/06/06, foser wrote: >> I don't think the problem with maintainer-wanted ebuilds is that they >> are crappy, but that there is no dev willing to maintain them and ensure >> their quality over time. 'sunrise' (who came up with that name ? cheap >> asian poetry attempt) doesn't change that by adding it to an 'official' >> overlay. > > One of the problems is that developer interest is transitory. The > current system suggests that a developer take personal responsibility > for ebuilds they maintain, and they maintain them until another > developer steps up. It would be nice (and I guess this is one of the > aims of sunrise) if there were a way for people to contribute ebuilds > that they are interested in at the time, but don't want to promise to > maintain forever. Think about wikipedia - how many pages would there > be if every page creator had to guarantee that they would maintain > each page indefinately? > > The time it takes to actually apply fixes etc. is another point. > Bugzilla is a poor system for sharing and managing the flow of > ebuilds and patches. It would be nice if there were a way for non-devs > to publish ebuilds/fixes using a VCS so that they could be shared and > easily pulled and applied to the main tree. It takes too long to > browse bugzilla, find bugs, find ebuilds and patches, download them, > copy to an overlay, fix digests, emerge, etc. and most users will > figure it's not worth the hassle. Yes, i agree, writting and maintaining ebuilds is a hard and *time-consuming* task. So if an user can't even take the time to fix a digest, why we should support him officially?. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list