From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Fgcvg-00071D-RU for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 18 May 2006 07:28:17 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id k4I7QnDn025393; Thu, 18 May 2006 07:26:49 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4I7KDvd027493 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 07:20:13 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F5256437D for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 07:20:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15910-06-2 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 07:20:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [129.181.229.65] (gw01.bull.be [62.72.102.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F22264405 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 07:20:06 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <446C201E.3060705@gentoo.org> Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 09:19:58 +0200 From: Jochen Maes User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060514) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles References: <20060516161549.442b4d8a@localhost> <446BABA7.3080603@gentoo.org> <20060517232345.GA48034@zeus.kimaker.com> <200605180634.42173.ian@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <200605180634.42173.ian@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.53 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.069, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Archives-Salt: 065c8a6a-06e1-4ca4-93ae-18190c1d62e1 X-Archives-Hash: c8917f50cdfda03e2c475b4d0f74933e First of all, keep up the work with Paludis. Personally I think having a second package manager is a very good thing. I do have some questions. Could someone of the Paludis crew please answer them? 1) If Paludis has no business in replacing portage on systems (shame, if it's better/faster it should) why are we having this discussion. I understand that you need a profile and with an overlay you need to copy the profiles dir (the whole profiles dir) but be serious that's only So my question would you be able to do tests without changing the official tree by copying the profiles dir in an own overlay. 2) If Paludis will be installed on a system to test, and installs packages, will portage be aware of that installation, and will it be able to remove it (meaning Paludis changes the portage VDB correctly when needed). (i've seen you explain that Paludis can read it but not that it can write it correctly) 3) If using an own binary format will there be an extracter for it that isn't part of Paludis? Why am i asking this? Well i've seen instances when an upgrade broke something, and that was a dep of portage. So my emerge couldn't revert back. So i just untarred the tarball and recompiled it. (might not be the cleanest way, but the only way i found in certain situations). 4) Will Paludis ever become a Gentoo Project? Thank you very much for the hard work! Jochen -- "Defer no time, delays have dangerous ends" "Ne humanus crede" Jochen Maes Gentoo Linux Gentoo Belgium http://sejo.be http://gentoo.be http://gentoo.org -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list