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From: Mike Auty <ikelos@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 00:03:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <446BABA7.3080603@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060517232642.4a5d19ea@localhost>

Forgive me,
	I'm a little new at this and I really don't want to get involved, but
since my inbox has seen nothing but this for the past day or two, I'm
going to ask a few questions I'm interested in the answers to...
	First and foremost is, will adding this to the tree be used for
function creep, whereby the next request to add to/alter the portage
tree is backed up by "Well, the profile change was already added to the
tree"?  I wouldn't want a precedent like this set without the council
reviewing it.
	Secondly, is that what's already being done by asking individual arch
devs to add individual paludis profiles?  Surely paludis would
eventually require all archs to be there, or have I missed something
(which I may have)?  Having already added a file to the profiles
directory, which caused a few posts on here earlier, and then having
asked the question of all the devs so as to avoid a similar incident,
and then received a mixed response, now specific people have been asked
if individually they'll help get paludis in the tree.  Doesn't that seem
a little improper, perhaps?
	Thirdly has anything like this ever happened to Debian or the Sourcery
group?  If so how did they cope with it, and if not, how have they
avoided it?
	As you may have guessed I'm of the, "You can do the same thing with an
overlay, so why must it be in the tree".  I am however willing to wait
and see what the council says, why can't the changes to the tree wait
until then, what is so urgent?  I'm especially intrigued since all this
is simply to no longer require portage as a dependency of system.  Can't
paludis peacefully co-exist with a portage installation for a little
longer, until it's mature?
	Thanks,
	Mike  5:\
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-05-17 23:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 273+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-16 15:15 [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 12:19 ` Thomas Cort
2006-06-13 17:13   ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 16:16 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-16 16:47   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 17:07     ` Alec Warner
2006-06-13 17:34       ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 16:28         ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-17 16:56           ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 18:29             ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-17 19:39             ` [gentoo-dev] " Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-16 17:33     ` [gentoo-dev] " Brian Harring
2006-05-16 18:07       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 18:23         ` Grant Goodyear
2006-05-16 19:54           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 19:55         ` Brian Harring
2006-05-16 20:50           ` Ciaran McCreesh
     [not found]             ` <20060516225638.GB29839@nightcrawler>
2006-05-17  0:04               ` Brian Harring
2006-05-17 14:12               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 16:10               ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-16 16:55   ` [gentoo-dev] " Mark Loeser
2006-05-16 17:06     ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 17:20       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 17:35         ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 19:51           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 20:09             ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 20:52               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 21:03                 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 21:21                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-06-13 18:27           ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 18:53             ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 19:35               ` Luis Francisco Araujo
2006-05-16 19:50                 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 20:13                   ` Jan Kundrát
2006-05-16 20:41                     ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 21:05                       ` Luis Francisco Araujo
2006-05-16 21:00                     ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-06-13 20:30                   ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 20:59                     ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 21:47                       ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17  9:42                         ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 13:42                         ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 14:08                           ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 15:29                             ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 16:25                               ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 19:42                                 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-28  3:54                             ` Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
2006-05-16 17:08     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-06-13 17:28   ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 17:39     ` Brian Harring
2006-06-13 18:29       ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 17:10 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-16 17:35   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17  5:03     ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-17 13:46       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 17:38   ` Mike Frysinger
2006-05-16 17:53   ` Grant Goodyear
2006-06-13 17:30   ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17  5:16     ` Christian Hartmann
2006-06-13 17:32   ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 17:43 ` Fernando J. Pereda
2006-05-16 18:35 ` Gustavo Zacarias
2006-05-16 19:05   ` Danny van Dyk
2006-05-16 20:49     ` Chris Gianelloni
     [not found]     ` <20060516231453.171002b9@epia.jeroenr-c2.orkz.net>
2006-05-16 22:22       ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 23:58         ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-17 13:50           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 14:21             ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-17 15:00               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 14:25             ` George Prowse
2006-05-17 14:46               ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 14:57                 ` George Prowse
2006-05-17 15:19                   ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 16:37                     ` George Prowse
2006-05-17 16:54                       ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 13:58         ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 14:17           ` Patrick McLean
2006-05-17 14:24             ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-17 15:47             ` Kevin F. Quinn
2006-05-17 15:53             ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 15:57             ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-17 16:16               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 14:25           ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17  5:19   ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-17  7:30     ` Matthijs van der Vleuten
2006-05-17  7:39       ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-05-17 14:50       ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 15:39       ` Mark Loeser
2006-05-16 18:51 ` Robin H. Johnson
2006-05-16 19:10 ` Daniel Drake
2006-05-16 19:57   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 20:56     ` Daniel Drake
2006-05-16 20:54       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 21:17         ` Simon Stelling
2006-05-16 19:16 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17  9:23   ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17  9:42     ` Roy Marples
2006-05-17 11:02       ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 12:02     ` Thomas Cort
2006-05-17 16:17       ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-17 16:32     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 18:11       ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 18:34         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:16           ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 20:13         ` Christian Birchinger
2006-05-17 20:53           ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 21:17             ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 21:42               ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 21:34             ` Christian Birchinger
2006-05-18 14:29               ` Patrick McLean
2006-05-18 14:54               ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 16:11                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 17:14                   ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-18 18:02                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:20                       ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-18 18:34                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:51                           ` Brian Harring
2006-05-18 19:04                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 19:30                               ` Brian Harring
2006-05-18 18:43                         ` Roy Marples
2006-05-18 19:35                           ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-18 20:15                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-19 13:54                               ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-19 14:17                                 ` Roy Marples
2006-05-19 14:52                                   ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-19 15:09                                     ` Roy Marples
2006-05-18 20:37                             ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-19  7:25                               ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-19  7:35                                 ` Roy Marples
2006-05-19  7:33                             ` Roy Marples
2006-05-19 13:55                               ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-18 18:55                         ` Grant Goodyear
2006-05-18 18:22                       ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 18:18                   ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 18:33                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 19:41                       ` Brian Harring
2006-05-18 20:19                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 20:39                           ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 20:58                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 21:10                               ` Brian Harring
     [not found]                       ` <200605182219.23040.pauldv@gentoo.org>
2006-05-18 20:24                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 20:39                           ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 21:17                             ` Alec Warner
2006-05-18 23:33                               ` Mike Auty
2006-05-18 21:00                           ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-17 18:27       ` Brian Harring
2006-05-16 22:09 ` Marius Mauch
     [not found]   ` <200605170115.33956.kugelfang@gentoo.org>
2006-05-17 10:04     ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 13:57       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 15:11         ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 15:26           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 15:48             ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 16:05               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:13                 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 15:54             ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-17 16:19               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 18:41                 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-17 19:13                 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 17:27               ` Christian Birchinger
2006-05-17 18:21             ` Brian Harring
2006-05-17 15:55           ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-17 19:17             ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 19:44               ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-18  9:39                 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 18:13         ` [gentoo-dev] " Brian Harring
2006-05-17 18:26           ` Benjamin Judas
2006-05-17 18:44           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:06             ` Brian Harring
2006-05-17 19:50               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 20:43                 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-17 21:21                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:22             ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 19:49               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18  9:52                 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 16:13                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 14:57       ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 15:09         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 16:05           ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 16:29             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 18:12               ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 18:50                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:30                   ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 19:55                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 20:55                       ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 21:24                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:48                   ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 16:26                     ` Thomas Cort
2006-05-17 20:34                       ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-17 21:05                       ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 17:38                         ` Thomas Cort
2006-05-18 10:07                           ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 21:27                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 20:13                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 21:00                       ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 21:30                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 10:03                           ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 16:15                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 20:12                   ` Daniel Ostrow
2006-05-17 20:22                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 20:39                       ` Tim Yamin
2006-05-17 20:49                         ` Andrew Gaffney
2006-05-17 20:56                           ` Tim Yamin
2006-05-17 21:30                             ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 21:32                               ` Tim Yamin
2006-05-17 21:47                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 23:07                               ` Mike Auty
2006-05-18 10:15                               ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 16:19                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 17:47                                   ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 18:03                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:33                                       ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 18:42                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 20:27                                           ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 20:43                                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-19  7:35                                               ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 20:53                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 21:01                       ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 21:31                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 19:34                           ` Josh Saddler
2006-05-18 20:21                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17  0:42 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17  2:12   ` Mike Frysinger
2006-05-17 10:14   ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 10:52     ` Simon Stelling
2006-05-17 11:11     ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 11:40       ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 12:24         ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 15:13           ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 15:21             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 15:37               ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 15:59                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:31                   ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 15:30             ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 15:39               ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 16:39                 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 19:36                   ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 14:01         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 18:07       ` Brian Harring
2006-05-17 13:59     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 11:12   ` Christian Birchinger
2006-05-17 14:06   ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 14:51     ` Harald van Dijk
2006-05-17 15:02     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 22:26 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 22:35   ` Mark Loeser
2006-05-17 23:03   ` Mike Auty [this message]
2006-05-17 23:23     ` Ryan Phillips
2006-05-18  4:34       ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-18  7:19         ` Jochen Maes
2006-05-18 12:11           ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-18 13:26             ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 13:58               ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-18 14:50                 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 15:44                   ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-18 17:55                     ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 18:05                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:13                       ` Grant Goodyear
2006-05-18 18:34                         ` Grant Goodyear
2006-05-18 16:26               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:00                 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 16:23           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 16:44             ` Grant Goodyear
2006-05-18 16:56               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:22               ` Marius Mauch
2006-05-18  7:21         ` Jochen Maes
2006-05-18 10:27       ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 10:18   ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 12:14     ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-18 13:31       ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 14:02         ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-18 14:30           ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 15:12             ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-18 11:22 ` Roy Bamford

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