Re: [gentoo-dev] Sandboxes

[Alec Warner <antarus@gentoo.org>]

Stefan Schweizer wrote:
> On 3/24/06, Alec Warner <antarus@gentoo.org> wrote:
> 
>>Thoughts on ideas on this somewhat more focussed idea? ( or at least I
>>think it's more focused :P )
> 
> 
> IMO motivation b) is not taken into account enough.
> 
> You are missing out a general-user-overlay, where the developer adding
> a user to the access list would be responsible for him.

Hmmm that is not an intended goal at this time.  "User-Contrib" sounds
overly too large.  The aim is to make the overlay rather small, to allow
normal users to contribute to development of packages.

> We really need a general user overlay for stuff that is abandoned in
> the treee (maintainer-needed@gentoo.org) or stuff that has not even
> been added to the tree (maintainer-wanted@gentoo.org). Those are
> ebuilds that no developer is interested in, so a general way for users
> needs to be present to be able to take care of those in a
> policy-based-overlay instead of bugzilla. Also the overlay will be
> easier to access and more bug-free as every person who is trusted by
> gentoo-devs can just fix bugs that come up without spamming every CC:
> on the list as it would be in bugzilla.

This generally breaks the rule of "overlays.gentoo.org is not for end
users."  The support in portage isn't there, the debugging is a
nightmare.  The point of overlays is to expedite *development* where
user A wants to help maintain package B because it's pragmatic for him
to do so, but he doesn't want to be a full Gentoo developer.  It is not
meant to be a "User-Contrib" overlay.  I think that should be a seperate
( if related ) project with different semantics.

> 
> Regards,
> Stefan
> 


-Alec Warner
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