From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1FEDEC-00045v-0R for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 22:21:56 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id k1SMJ7rH029451; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 22:19:07 GMT Received: from smtp104.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp104.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.229.101]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id k1SME1oU016693 for ; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 22:14:02 GMT Received: (qmail 72020 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2006 22:14:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.grantgoodyear.org) (s?robertson@sbcglobal.net@67.67.81.246 with plain) by smtp104.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Feb 2006 22:14:40 -0000 Received: from [136.76.20.1] (dst [192.168.1.3]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.grantgoodyear.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1SMEck0017900 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:14:40 -0600 Message-ID: <4404CB49.2080402@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:14:33 -0600 From: Grant Goodyear User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role References: <20060227213321.7ee405ec@snowdrop.home> <200602281539.43661.vapier@gentoo.org> <905929917.20060228220239@gentoo.org> <200602281631.37594.vapier@gentoo.org> <20060228215040.GL11818@toucan.gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <20060228215040.GL11818@toucan.gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig23553D7B93C6E7C51F240AEC" X-Archives-Salt: 5d9613a6-b573-48d2-b402-2c7e7289cb11 X-Archives-Hash: 4af07e04dec923cd4730f45afab880cb This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig23553D7B93C6E7C51F240AEC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Renat Lumpau wrote: > On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 04:31:37PM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: >> today's lesson: proactive QA is frowned upon, it's only a bug when a u= ser=20 >> files a report at bugs.gentoo.org >=20 > I don't think that's the lesson. It oughtta be: we need a way to figure= out > which QA issues are important and which are less so. A QA team member's= opinion > (personal attacks, whatever) should be an important input but not the f= inal say. At the risk of trying to get this conversation back on track, here's what has been happening: Some members of the QA team are working on a new QA tool to identify QA problems in the portage tree. As they add new tests, they run their tool on the tree, and file bugs on any packages that are found to violate that particular QA test. I think it's fair to say that these QA checks will find problems ranging from not-awful-but-annoying to could-break-your-system, but they are all bugs that ought to be fixed eventually. Now, if you're currently working on fixing a big problem and thus too busy to fix the little one, that's perfectly reasonable, but to not fix a small bug because you know there are larger bugs that aren't fixed just seems lazy. So, back to the big issue, are there any real complaints about the QA team essentially formulating QA policy? Should new QA policies instead follow the same rules as new global USE flags or eclasses--an e-mail to -dev asking for comments first? Does QA trump, or does the maintainer trump when it comes to disputes? -g2boojum- --------------enig23553D7B93C6E7C51F240AEC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.1 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEBMtNptxxUuD2W3YRAl2YAJ9MJuJyfvqPmPC9oWfBvxnFBwh6gQCeLA8C r7NNNlolOhmB6uvw8wERw8I= =xh4J -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig23553D7B93C6E7C51F240AEC-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list