From: Alec Warner <antarus@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 18:41:19 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <44023C9F.9050807@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060226232147.37349bc2@snowdrop.home>
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Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>
> | > * In the case of disagreement on policy among QA members, the
> | > majority of established QA members must agree with the action.
> |
> | Perhaps pushing it to an open forum on -dev/-core for consensus works
> | better here?
>
> The problem with that is, it usually ends up with too many pointless
> comments from people saying how things could be fixed in the distant
> future, or whining that it isn't explicitly forbidden by policy on
> situations where the screwup was too weird to be documented previously.
>
The rather blunt point here is to limit the power of the QA team itself.
The QA team decides what new policy to enforce, and when the QA team
can't agree "the majority of established QA members" must agree to
action. Which is in itself rather vague.
Perhaps "The majority of active QA members, where an active member is
designated as 'a QA member who responds to the corresponding mail to the
qa'". This would be similar to how the recent QA lead was chosen, mail
was sent, yay's and nay's were collected from those who cared, and then
the decision was made.
This is meant to prevent the case where the QA team ( or a subset; "the
established QA members" ) decides to make unilateral changes to the tree
( or large subset thereof ) without even necessarily talking to the
affected developers.
While you may not think that soliciting comments is useful ( and in some
limited cases I would agree with you ) giving people the opportunity to
comment also means you just covered your ass, in terms of people going
"where the hell did that come from?"
-Alec Warner
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Thread overview: 168+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-02-26 22:22 [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role Mark Loeser
2006-02-26 22:58 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-26 23:13 ` johnm
2006-02-26 23:51 ` Daniel Goller
2006-02-27 0:42 ` Mark Loeser
2006-02-26 23:11 ` johnm
2006-02-26 23:21 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-26 23:35 ` johnm
2006-02-27 0:09 ` Mark Loeser
2006-02-27 0:29 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-02-27 0:35 ` Mark Loeser
2006-02-27 1:53 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-02-27 2:10 ` Mark Loeser
2006-02-27 3:34 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-02-27 5:13 ` Ned Ludd
2006-02-27 6:25 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-02-27 16:35 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-27 16:47 ` Lance Albertson
2006-02-27 17:15 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 10:21 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-02-28 14:48 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 15:02 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-02-27 17:30 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-02-28 9:19 ` John Mylchreest
2006-02-28 16:04 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-27 20:05 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-02-27 5:09 ` Ned Ludd
2006-02-27 16:37 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-27 8:58 ` John Mylchreest
2006-02-26 23:41 ` Alec Warner [this message]
2006-02-26 23:51 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-02-27 0:12 ` Mark Loeser
2006-02-27 9:09 ` John Mylchreest
2006-02-27 16:37 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-27 17:09 ` John Mylchreest
2006-02-27 17:18 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-26 23:48 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-02-27 0:34 ` Mark Loeser
2006-02-27 1:21 ` Daniel Goller
2006-02-27 9:00 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-02-27 17:08 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-27 17:21 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-27 18:12 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-27 17:31 ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-27 20:26 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-02-27 20:37 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-27 20:45 ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-27 20:54 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-27 21:02 ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-27 21:04 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-02-27 21:18 ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-02-27 21:34 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-27 22:38 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-02-27 23:07 ` Alec Warner
2006-02-27 21:34 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 10:42 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-02-27 21:12 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-02-27 21:32 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 9:49 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 14:31 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-28 14:39 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 15:08 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 15:29 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-02-28 15:42 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 16:23 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-02-28 16:24 ` [gentoo-dev] Policies (was: [RFC] QA Team's role) Danny van Dyk
2006-02-28 16:39 ` Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 18:35 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-28 15:29 ` [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role Ciaran McCreesh
2006-03-01 7:37 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-03-01 16:44 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-28 16:00 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-28 11:45 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-27 21:43 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-02-28 6:11 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-27 20:49 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-27 21:33 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 9:38 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 12:54 ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-02-28 13:34 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 14:00 ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-02-28 14:33 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 15:07 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-02-28 14:21 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-02-28 14:46 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 14:55 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-02-28 14:52 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 15:12 ` Patrick Lauer
2006-02-28 15:26 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 15:42 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 16:11 ` Patrick Lauer
2006-02-28 16:35 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 17:00 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 17:09 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 17:30 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 17:38 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 17:59 ` Patrick Lauer
2006-02-28 18:09 ` Dan Meltzer
2006-02-28 18:12 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 19:03 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-02-28 18:14 ` Fernando J. Pereda
2006-02-28 18:19 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-02-28 18:55 ` Patrick Lauer
2006-02-28 18:01 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-02-28 18:02 ` Alec Warner
2006-02-28 19:11 ` Thomas de Grenier de Latour
2006-02-28 19:21 ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-28 19:24 ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-28 19:09 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 19:42 ` Danny van Dyk
2006-02-28 20:20 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-03-01 12:09 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-03-01 12:24 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-03-01 13:16 ` Simon Stelling
2006-02-28 17:02 ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-28 17:11 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 17:51 ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-28 19:59 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-28 20:10 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 20:39 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-28 21:02 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 21:31 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-28 21:50 ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-28 21:55 ` Dan Meltzer
2006-02-28 22:10 ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-28 21:57 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 22:12 ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-28 22:14 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-02-28 22:36 ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-28 23:34 ` Mark Loeser
2006-02-28 23:45 ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-28 23:57 ` Mark Loeser
2006-03-01 0:13 ` Lance Albertson
2006-03-01 0:28 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-03-01 0:40 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-03-01 7:17 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-03-01 2:22 ` Lance Albertson
2006-02-28 22:42 ` Patrick Lauer
2006-02-28 22:50 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 23:10 ` Patrick Lauer
2006-02-28 23:45 ` Mark Loeser
2006-02-28 21:58 ` Alec Warner
2006-02-28 23:08 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-03-01 12:24 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-02-28 18:00 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 18:39 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-28 19:27 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 19:38 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-02-28 19:42 ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-02-28 16:40 ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-28 16:22 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 16:39 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 15:30 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 15:17 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-02-28 15:31 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-03-01 7:21 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-03-01 10:29 ` Danny van Dyk
2006-03-01 11:02 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-03-01 12:30 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-02-28 15:21 ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-27 20:57 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-02-28 10:34 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-02-28 14:47 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 15:22 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-02-27 18:05 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-02-27 18:19 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 10:55 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-02-27 19:05 ` Mark Loeser
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