[gentoo-dev] I want to help, but I don't know where

[gentoo-dev] I want to help, but I don't know where

[Rafael Bugajewski]

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Hi,

at first I'm new at this list (I subscribed yesterday), so excuse me if I 
write stupid things... possibly there is a page or FAQ about this subject, 
but I really didn't find it.

I want to help and I don't know where. I tried to find a page at gentoo.org 
which lists needed manpower or at least gives some hints, but I didn't find 
nothing. Also the support is for people who search for support and not for 
people who want to support Gentoo. That's not the point of my mail at all, 
but possibly there should be some (better placed) information about this 
subject?

O.K., I want to describe my person a little bit. Sincerely I come from Poland 
and live in Germany now. I speak Polish, German and English. I am 20 years 
old and studying computer science at the University of Bremen. I'm in the 
middle of my studies now. I use Gentoo since a lot of years (I forgot the 
exact date), before Gentoo I used a self-made distribution based on LFS. I 
can write applications in C(++), Java and PHP. Personally I write rather 
end-user applications, but during my studies I also had exercises like "write 
your own file system (O.K., it was FAT12 ;)", "write your own memory 
management" etc. So basic knowledge about operating systems should also be 
there. My knowledge in XHTML and CSS is also good, because it's my job for 
more than five years.

I think this should be enough for a first profile. I can tell more, if 
somebody wants to know more. Can anybody tell me how can I help? Is my help 
needed or should I rather participate somewhere else?

Greets,

Rafael Bugajewski

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Re: [gentoo-dev] I want to help, but I don't know where

[Rafael Bugajewski]

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22. Februar 2006 10:04, Rafael Bugajewski:

> [...]

I forgot to write which architectures I use: amd64 and ppc.

Greets,

Rafael Bugajewski

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Re: [gentoo-dev] I want to help, but I don't know where

[Mark Kowarsky]

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> Hi,
>
> at first I'm new at this list (I subscribed yesterday), so excuse
> me if I write stupid things... possibly there is a page or FAQ
> about this subject, but I really didn't find it.
>
> I want to help and I don't know where. I tried to find a page at
> gentoo.org which lists needed manpower or at least gives some
> hints, but I didn't find nothing. Also the support is for people
> who search for support and not for people who want to support
> Gentoo. That's not the point of my mail at all, but possibly there
> should be some (better placed) information about this subject?
>
> O.K., I want to describe my person a little bit. Sincerely I come
> from Poland and live in Germany now. I speak Polish, German and
> English. I am 20 years old and studying computer science at the
> University of Bremen. I'm in the middle of my studies now. I use
> Gentoo since a lot of years (I forgot the exact date), before
> Gentoo I used a self-made distribution based on LFS. I can write
> applications in C(++), Java and PHP. Personally I write rather
> end-user applications, but during my studies I also had exercises
> like "write your own file system (O.K., it was FAT12 ;)", "write
> your own memory management" etc. So basic knowledge about operating
>  systems should also be there. My knowledge in XHTML and CSS is
> also good, because it's my job for more than five years.
>
> I think this should be enough for a first profile. I can tell more,
>  if somebody wants to know more. Can anybody tell me how can I
> help? Is my help needed or should I rather participate somewhere
> else?
>
> Greets,
>
> Rafael Bugajewski
Hi Rafael,

If you want to help
http://www.securesystem.info/tiki-view_blog_post.php?blogId=3&postId=104
contains a good summary of what and how you can help out :).

Cheers,
Mark Kowarsky
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Translation questions [was: Re: [gentoo-dev] I want to help, but I don't know where]

[Rafael Bugajewski]

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Mark Kowarsky wrote:

> If you want to help
> http://www.securesystem.info/tiki-view_blog_post.php?blogId=3&postId=104
> contains a good summary of what and how you can help out :).

Thanks for the nice link. I read some stuff and now I know that the first step 
is "helping out". So I will translate some existing documentation into 
german.

I could start writing everything in german into a plain text file, but I don't 
think it's a good idea. In my opinion it would be better if I could write the 
XML files directly and submit it to Bugzilla for approval. But where can I 
get a needed XML structure, example or at least description?

Greets,

Rafael Bugajewski

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Re: Translation questions [was: Re: [gentoo-dev] I want to help, but I don't know where]

[Xavier Neys]

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Rafael Bugajewski wrote:
> Mark Kowarsky wrote:
> 
>> If you want to help
>> http://www.securesystem.info/tiki-view_blog_post.php?blogId=3&postId=104
>> contains a good summary of what and how you can help out :).
> 
> Thanks for the nice link. I read some stuff and now I know that the first step 
> is "helping out". So I will translate some existing documentation into 
> german.
> 
> I could start writing everything in german into a plain text file, but I don't 
> think it's a good idea. In my opinion it would be better if I could write the 
> XML files directly and submit it to Bugzilla for approval. But where can I 
> get a needed XML structure, example or at least description?
> 
> Greets,
> 
> Rafael Bugajewski

Hi Rafael,

Thanks for your offer.
German translations are handled by grahl@gentoo.org (and Polish ones by
rane@gentoo.org btw).
FYI, we also have a "staffing needs" page linked from our home page:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/staffing-needs/

Please use our gentoo-doc@gentoo.org mailing list for anything regarding
documentation or translations. You can also find us on #gentoo-doc on freenode.
Besides, you'll find useful documentation at http://gdp.gentoo.org/


Cheers,
-- 
/  Xavier Neys
\_ Gentoo Documentation Project
/
/\ http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/


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Re: Translation questions [was: Re: [gentoo-dev] I want to help, but I don't know where]

[Mark Kowarsky]

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Rafael Bugajewski wrote:
> Mark Kowarsky wrote:
>
>> If you want to help
>> http://www.securesystem.info/tiki-view_blog_post.php?blogId=3&postId=104
>>  contains a good summary of what and how you can help out :).
>
> Thanks for the nice link. I read some stuff and now I know that the
> first step is "helping out". So I will translate some existing
> documentation into german.
>
> I could start writing everything in german into a plain text file,
> but I don't think it's a good idea. In my opinion it would be
> better if I could write the XML files directly and submit it to
> Bugzilla for approval. But where can I get a needed XML structure,
> example or at least description?
>
> Greets,
>
> Rafael Bugajewski
Glad you want to help translating some documentation :D. The Gentoo
Documentation Project has documentation (unsurprisingly) for how to
write in GuideXML as well as other howtos.

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gdp/#doc_chap4

Cheers,
Mark Kowarsky
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Re: Translation questions [was: Re: [gentoo-dev] I want to help, but I don't know where]

[Francesco Riosa]

Rafael Bugajewski wrote:
> Mark Kowarsky wrote:
> 
>> If you want to help
>> http://www.securesystem.info/tiki-view_blog_post.php?blogId=3&postId=104
>> contains a good summary of what and how you can help out :).
> 
> Thanks for the nice link. I read some stuff and now I know that the first step 
> is "helping out". So I will translate some existing documentation into 
> german.
> 
> I could start writing everything in german into a plain text file, but I don't 
> think it's a good idea. In my opinion it would be better if I could write the 
> XML files directly and submit it to Bugzilla for approval. But where can I 
> get a needed XML structure, example or at least description?
> 
> Greets,
> 
> Rafael Bugajewski

start with these:

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gdp/doc/doc-tipsntricks.xml
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gdp/doc/translators-howto.xml
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gdp/doc/metadoc-guide.xml

also patches for bugs in bugzilla are generally appreciated ;-)

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Re: Translation questions [was: Re: [gentoo-dev] I want to help, but I don't know where]

[Jan Hendrik Grahl]

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On Wednesday 22 February 2006 05:17, Rafael Bugajewski wrote:
> Mark Kowarsky wrote:
> > If you want to help
> > > http://www.securesystem.info/tiki-view_blog_post.php?blogId=3&postId=10
> > >4 contains a good summary of what and how you can help out :).
> >
> > Thanks for the nice link. I read some stuff and now I know that the first
> > step is "helping out". So I will translate some existing documentation
> > into german.
> >
> > I could start writing everything in german into a plain text file, but I
> > don't think it's a good idea. In my opinion it would be better if I could
> > write the XML files directly and submit it to Bugzilla for approval. But
> > where can I get a needed XML structure, example or at least description?
> >
> > Greets,
> >
> > Rafael Bugajewski
>
Hi Rafael,
the german doc team uses a CVS repository at gentoo.de to coordinate work.
The webserver at that domainname also has lots of information for helping
with translations. You can see our current status here:
http://dev.gentoo.org/~grahl/trads-de.html
Let me know (on- or off-list) what you'd like to help out with and we'll
get you set up :-)
All the best,
	Hendrik

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Re: Translation questions [was: Re: [gentoo-dev] I want to help, but I don't know where]

[Rafael Bugajewski]

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> [...] a lot of very, very useful information [...]

At first I want to thank you all for the really good information provided. I 
already read a big part of the resources given and it really helps me, so 
I'll get closer to gentoo development (and documentation).

During this week I will look at things which I think I want to translate and 
give a sign; I will also read some more stuff which will hopefully improve 
the quality of my translations.

I just wanted to say: THANKS! :)

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