[gentoo-dev] a plea for testing help

[gentoo-dev] a plea for testing help

[Greg KH]

Well, it's not a Gentoo specific plea, but a Linux kernel plea.  I've
created a new kernel tree, git-sources, that tracks the upstream
development kernel tree every day (not the raw git tree, but the nightly
snapshots of it.)

If you want to help out with kernel development testing, please run
these kernels and let us know if you have problems with them.  I'm
especially interested in finding out if any existing userspace programs
need updating to work properly, as the alsa/udev/whatever tie is pretty
strong to the kernel these days, and we (Gentoo) needs to keep on top of
it.

And if someone wants to forward this over to -user, feel free.

thanks,

greg k-h
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Re: [gentoo-dev] a plea for testing help

[Donnie Berkholz]

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Greg KH wrote:
| Well, it's not a Gentoo specific plea, but a Linux kernel plea.  I've
| created a new kernel tree, git-sources, that tracks the upstream
| development kernel tree every day (not the raw git tree, but the nightly
| snapshots of it.)
|
| If you want to help out with kernel development testing, please run
| these kernels and let us know if you have problems with them.  I'm
| especially interested in finding out if any existing userspace programs
| need updating to work properly, as the alsa/udev/whatever tie is pretty
| strong to the kernel these days, and we (Gentoo) needs to keep on top of
| it.

Hi Greg,

Where should people file bugs on this?

Thanks,
Donnie
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Re: [gentoo-dev] a plea for testing help

[Greg KH]

On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 10:27:46AM -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> Greg KH wrote:
> | Well, it's not a Gentoo specific plea, but a Linux kernel plea.  I've
> | created a new kernel tree, git-sources, that tracks the upstream
> | development kernel tree every day (not the raw git tree, but the nightly
> | snapshots of it.)
> |
> | If you want to help out with kernel development testing, please run
> | these kernels and let us know if you have problems with them.  I'm
> | especially interested in finding out if any existing userspace programs
> | need updating to work properly, as the alsa/udev/whatever tie is pretty
> | strong to the kernel these days, and we (Gentoo) needs to keep on top of
> | it.
> 
> Where should people file bugs on this?

To quote the einfo text that is shown when you install this kernel:
	This kernel is not supported by Gentoo due to its unstable and
	experimental nature. If you have any issues, try a matching
	vanilla-sources ebuild -- if the problem is not there, please
	contact the upstream kernel developers at http://bugme.osdl.org
	and on the linux-kernel mailing list to report the problem so it
	can be fixed in time for the next kernel release.

Does that seem acceptable?

thanks,

greg k-h
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Re: [gentoo-dev] a plea for testing help

[Donnie Berkholz]

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Greg KH wrote:
| On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 10:27:46AM -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
|>Where should people file bugs on this?
|
|
| To quote the einfo text that is shown when you install this kernel:
| 	This kernel is not supported by Gentoo due to its unstable and
| 	experimental nature. If you have any issues, try a matching
| 	vanilla-sources ebuild -- if the problem is not there, please
| 	contact the upstream kernel developers at http://bugme.osdl.org
| 	and on the linux-kernel mailing list to report the problem so it
| 	can be fixed in time for the next kernel release.
|
| Does that seem acceptable?

Might be worth saying if the problem _is_ in vanilla-sources, they
should file a Gentoo bug instead.

Thanks,
Donnie
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[gentoo-dev] Re: a plea for testing help

[Duncan]

Greg KH posted <20060110182106.GA15099@kroah.com>, excerpted below,  on
Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:21:06 -0800:

> Well, it's not a Gentoo specific plea, but a Linux kernel plea.  I've
> created a new kernel tree, git-sources, that tracks the upstream
> development kernel tree every day (not the raw git tree, but the nightly
> snapshots of it.)
> 
> If you want to help out with kernel development testing, please run
> these kernels and let us know if you have problems with them.

Whee!  This sounds right up my alley!  I see the file bugs upstream thing
and agree that makes the most sense.

I had tried the occasional nightly build, but was never quite sure of the
correct procedure to upgrade from one to the next, incremental vs. from
-rc patch and all that, so I just tried it a very few times, in
particular, when an rc was broken and known to be fixed within the next
snapshot or two. This will of course solve that problem for me.
=8^)

Of course, I've been grabbing directly off of kernel.org.  Now I'll have
to figure out how to adapt my scripts to use the portage tree
git-sources kernels.  Fun, fun, fun!  =8^)

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Re: [gentoo-dev] a plea for testing help

[Greg KH]

On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 11:24:57AM -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> Greg KH wrote:
> | On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 10:27:46AM -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> |>Where should people file bugs on this?
> |
> |
> | To quote the einfo text that is shown when you install this kernel:
> | 	This kernel is not supported by Gentoo due to its unstable and
> | 	experimental nature. If you have any issues, try a matching
> | 	vanilla-sources ebuild -- if the problem is not there, please
> | 	contact the upstream kernel developers at http://bugme.osdl.org
> | 	and on the linux-kernel mailing list to report the problem so it
> | 	can be fixed in time for the next kernel release.
> |
> | Does that seem acceptable?
> 
> Might be worth saying if the problem _is_ in vanilla-sources, they
> should file a Gentoo bug instead.

No, not necessarily, vanilla-sources is supported by upstream.  And if
userspace needs to be updated, upstream better know about that too,
which will cause us to know to update it.

This shouldn't cause any more effort on the gentoo developers, if the
kernel developers are doing their job properly :)

thanks,

greg k-h
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Re: [gentoo-dev] a plea for testing help

[Jan Kundrát]

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Greg KH wrote:
> And if someone wants to forward this over to -user, feel free.

Do you want to have this kernel documented in our Kernel guide [1]?

[1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-kernel.xml#doc_chap3

Cheers,
-jkt

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Re: [gentoo-dev] a plea for testing help

[Greg KH]

On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 01:41:41PM +0100, Jan Kundr?t wrote:
> Greg KH wrote:
> > And if someone wants to forward this over to -user, feel free.
> 
> Do you want to have this kernel documented in our Kernel guide [1]?
> 
> [1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-kernel.xml#doc_chap3

That would be great to have added there.  In the "Unsupported kernels"
section please.

thanks,

greg k-h
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