From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1Evdtp-0007kV-HR for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:00:09 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id k08GxQkB029838; Sun, 8 Jan 2006 16:59:26 GMT Received: from centrmmtao03.cox.net (centrmmtao03.cox.net [70.168.83.81]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k08GttA4018355 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2006 16:55:56 GMT Received: from [10.3.1.3] (really [68.102.201.166]) by centrmmtao03.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20060108165312.KCLM613.centrmmtao03.cox.net@[10.3.1.3]> for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2006 11:53:12 -0500 Message-ID: <43C14416.9050106@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 10:55:50 -0600 From: Lance Albertson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051225) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 19: Gentoo Stable Portage Tree -- ideas References: <43BDF53C.8080205@leetworks.com> <20060106053556.GD28075@nightcrawler.e-centre.net> <623652d50601060100w2bd03634i@mail.gmail.com> <1136559950.18383.11.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> <20060106173901.GF28075@nightcrawler.e-centre.net> <1136575828.18383.81.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> <43BEFE0D.5080604@gentoo.org> <1136729665.30850.5.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> In-Reply-To: <1136729665.30850.5.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig67B09531772FD4B16D016B1C" X-Archives-Salt: 703c318a-cd22-4356-b3e3-e8a1afd8e019 X-Archives-Hash: 15844a3fa1bf5155c0bb6960e3d0f7c5 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig67B09531772FD4B16D016B1C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 17:32 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote: > >> >> >>I think a key thing that is missing is build info that is only kept on >>the installed system. If we were to ever create a build server setup, we >>need to be able to have multiple binpkg's of the same version depending >>on differences between sub-arch, use flags, cflag differences, gcc >>version differences, etc. The key one i'm after is use flags. I'm not >>sure of the technical details behind it, but we need something to make >>the binpkgs more useful outside of the local system. Having the ebuild >>packed at the end is a great idea! I think its just time to extend the >>format to include more and possibly add things for build servers. > > > USE flags are stored in the package. The main thing is that portage > doesn't consider them, at all, unless you use --newuse, in which case if > the USE flags do not match, it will not use the package and will compile > from source. We use this every day in Release Engineering with > catalyst. That maybe true, but if you're going to use such things on a build server, you need to be able to have multiple tars of the same package for the different use flags you may use. Maybe for one server setup I need useflag foo, but another setup I don't need it. This central repository needs to differentiate between those two needs. I know you could make two separate binpkg dirs for those cases, but thats not scalable at all. I was looking for something more generic. To summarize, differentiating use flags in gentoo binary packages isn't very scalable at the moment. A few rough ideas that just popped in my head is either packing all of these versions into one tarball (not even sure if thats feasible), or creating a hashed suffix based upon the useflags enabled/disabled at the time that you append to the tarball name. -- Lance Albertson Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: Key fingerprint: 0423 92F3 544A 1282 5AB1 4D07 416F A15D 27F4 B742 ramereth/irc.freenode.net --------------enig67B09531772FD4B16D016B1C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDwUQaQW+hXSf0t0IRAldvAJ4qn9GIX+DCOhgmhDH1JNjYq2o8PACgxsU9 cyGHaCIMnjhUQFHstLOHEJE= =Yuhz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig67B09531772FD4B16D016B1C-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list