From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1EtW8K-0002Yi-QO for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 20:18:21 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id k02KHFBm030523; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 20:17:15 GMT Received: from centrmmtai08.cox.net (centrmmtai08.cox.net [70.168.83.86]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k02KCeQ5013383 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 20:12:44 GMT Received: from [10.3.1.3] (really [68.102.201.166]) by centrmmtao02.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20060102191959.ECRS8484.centrmmtao02.cox.net@[10.3.1.3]> for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 14:19:59 -0500 Message-ID: <43B97CE7.1070101@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 13:20:07 -0600 From: Lance Albertson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051225) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] ChangeLogs and rsync time References: <43B83D16.6060803@gentoo.org> <20060101225519.1f3bec72@snowdrop.home> <43B8F44D.4080806@gentoo.org> <43B9042B.2050802@quanteam.info> <20060102150025.GA6819@pluto.atHome> <43B956DC.9060402@gentoo.org> <20060102164729.GA31727@osgiliath.brixandersen.dk> <43B961FC.10609@gentoo.org> <1136227249.7131.1.camel@vertigo.twi-31o2.org> In-Reply-To: <1136227249.7131.1.camel@vertigo.twi-31o2.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig6FAC787B6F3C491A9544EF02" X-Archives-Salt: ccabd498-10a6-4648-a24b-18b595c856cb X-Archives-Hash: 300b721f0fc64e51919dad1c858a56c8 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig6FAC787B6F3C491A9544EF02 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 11:25 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote: > >>>I'm also for telling the users to rsync exclude the ChangeLogs if they >>>don't want them instead of getting rid of them or crippling them. >> >>I don't think that's really a solution. That's just a way to minimize >>what they get. If you really want to look at a solution, you should >>reduce whats actually in the changelog. All the changelogs are in CVS, >>and if someone wanted to go look back at any changes, they can either >>look at viewcvs or (hopefully soon), grab it via anoncvs. I bet you >80% >>of things in the changelogs are for things that are in the attic. I say >>we need a way to either have echangelog (or another script) to clean out >>changelog entries for things that are in the attic (and make sense to >>take out). Maybe another option would be to remove any 'version bump' >>type entries that are old as well. > > > OK. I keep seeing this argument about ChangeLog stuff for ebuilds in > the Attic and I just think people might not be thinking it totally > trough. For example, I made changes to the vmware-workstation ebuilds > to force group membership a while back because of a security bug. > However, there's been another security bug since, so those changes were > made on ebuilds now in Attic, but the change is still valid in the > current ebuilds. > > I don't see a problem with removing version bump and stabilization > messages, but everything else should stay in the ChangeLog for as long > as the package is still around. See the part that I said "make sense to take out". What you described is a perfect example of something that needs to stay. All I'm getting at is that minor things that the package maintainer thinks isn't important to keep in the active changelog, should be able to be removed. I'm not implying to blindly remove changelog entries solely based on the fact that those ebuilds are in the attic. Common sense would play here. -- Lance Albertson Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: Key fingerprint: 0423 92F3 544A 1282 5AB1 4D07 416F A15D 27F4 B742 ramereth/irc.freenode.net --------------enig6FAC787B6F3C491A9544EF02 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDuXznQW+hXSf0t0IRAoGlAJ943tcjPMql+Ilt6l+LK+ihYbm5mwCbByEL 5RCkrdC/rMjWZkB4ZEiWp34= =CKkl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig6FAC787B6F3C491A9544EF02-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list