From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1ErQFY-0005Yd-Ew for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 28 Dec 2005 01:37:08 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jBS1aMDC003119; Wed, 28 Dec 2005 01:36:22 GMT Received: from mail.tar.bz (s175249.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp [220.157.175.249]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jBS1YPFf019486 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2005 01:34:26 GMT Received: (qmail 22302 invoked by uid 210); 28 Dec 2005 01:34:23 -0000 Received: from 192.168.1.122 by dorf (envelope-from , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25st (clamdscan: 0.87/1096. perlscan: 1.25st. Clear:RC:1(192.168.1.122):. Processed in 0.029533 secs); 28 Dec 2005 01:34:23 -0000 Received: from kpc.tar.bz (HELO ?192.168.1.122?) (kalin.smtp%tar.bz@192.168.1.122) by dorf.tar.bz with ESMTPA; 28 Dec 2005 01:34:23 -0000 Message-ID: <43B1EB8F.9000009@thinrope.net> Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 10:34:07 +0900 From: Kalin KOZHUHAROV User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051023) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Putting qa warnings to a text file instead of showing them to the world References: <43AF2BF5.4060905@gentoo.org> <43B198D9.3000900@gentoo.org> <1135713763.7402.20.camel@localhost> <43B19FB1.9010200@gentoo.org> <1135714953.7402.32.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1135714953.7402.32.camel@localhost> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.0.0 OpenPGP: id=26BE7385 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by robin.gentoo.org id jBS1aMEn003119 X-Archives-Salt: 374cbc14-bf06-45cc-9961-ca2175c29f41 X-Archives-Hash: 5a1d9e3d429da23ea9b18818d7510bb2 Lares Moreau wrote: > On Tue, 2005-12-27 at 22:10 +0200, Petteri R=C3=A4ty wrote: >=20 >>>I see the point about not showing all the QA stuff to the 'regluar' >>>user. Maybe only show this info on screen with --verbose set. As for >>>the QA-warnings file, how does this differ from parsing the files in >>>PORTLOG_DIR? >>> >> >>Stuff that goes to PORT_LOGDIR is also shown to the user. >=20 >=20 > Could it be split? Have the QA stuff shown on screen only when --verbos= e > is set, but have all the information written to PORT_LOGDIR no matter > the flag. That will be difficult to explain as a behaviour, not logical to me. > In my experience most users don't use PORT_LOGDIR in the first place. > People who want the information define PORT_LOGDIR and have the > information. Why add files containing duplicate information? ditto. Imagine a world where every (Gentoo) user is a developer... dream... more= ! You are right - impossible. However, by bitching about problems, there ar= e some users that decide to check WTF is this warning, in turn they urge devs to fix it (and that is = the main point of QA, right?), they report it with their bug reports and so on. In other words,= the problem gets _NOTICED_ by everybody. IMHO, leave it as it is now and don't bother. It is not that much of an o= utput, compared to the compile output anyway. I'd prefer even having it red/bold/whatever for easy spotting. And for th= e future, what about defining something like GENTOO_LEVEL=3D"n00b|user|know_how|master|admin|d= ev|guru" in make.conf? And act acording to this, but trying to move the user up a level or two most = of the time. Kalin. /know_how ->master -->dev/ --=20 |[ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ]| +-> http://ThinRope.net/ <-+ |[ ______________________ ]| --=20 gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list