From: Chandler Carruth <chandlerc@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Stupid USE defaults that need cleaning
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 00:10:04 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <43B0CCAC.40006@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051227044356.GM5809@nightcrawler.e-centre.net>
Brian Harring wrote:
>On Mon, Dec 26, 2005 at 11:28:17PM -0500, Chandler Carruth wrote:
>
>
>>It occurs to me that this could be (to an extent) accomplished by having
>>a few more "specialized" subprofiles for x86: base, desktop, gnome, and kde.
>>
>>base - as the name implies, a _basic_ starting point... very similar to
>>server profiles, etc. veeery minimal.
>>desktop - almost identical to the current USE flags -- what Joe Q. User
>>"should" have to be safe, and have programs function as expected.
>>gnome / kde - slight specializations of the above to tailor the use
>>flags for one desktop environ or the other..
>>
>>Problems?
>>1) heavier usage and depth of the profile, making where things come in
>>more and more obscure.
>>2) could lead to proliferation of environment tailored "desktop"
>>derivatives. (xfce, fluxbox, the list could go on) This may not be a
>>problem as many distros have successfully divided between KDE and Gnome,
>>and the base / desktop profiles would allow users ways to customize, as
>>always.
>>3) there is _no_ functionality added by any of this, only
>>"user-friendliness" after a fashion, and as such, perhaps it should all
>>be chucked in favor of having users competently declare their own global
>>USE flags during the install, however I doubt that'll get very far. *shrug*
>>
>>
>
>4) need for the ability to inherit multiple parent profiles.
>
>Otherwise, x86 desktop profile is not guranteed in anyway to reflect
>sparc desktop profile (yes, somewhat the case now).
>
>A gnome desktop profile would make sense imo, but from a work
>standpoint is totally dependant on ability to inherit multiple
>parents.
>
>~harring
>
>
How close is that ability to portage? Is there interest/room for
help/work towards it? I would like to see a more sensible approach to
establishing default settings (USE flags not the only thing here). Would
help the confusion, and end some of the arts/no-arts, eds/no-eds madness.
Would also aid end users in beginning to customize their system rather
than simply using a default setup.
What about the other 3 problems I myself raised?
-Chandler Carruth
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-12-27 5:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-12-26 5:09 [gentoo-dev] Stupid USE defaults that need cleaning Doug Goldstein
2005-12-26 6:09 ` Mike Frysinger
2005-12-26 6:22 ` Dale
2005-12-26 16:27 ` Jan Kundrát
2005-12-26 7:24 ` Doug Goldstein
2005-12-26 7:33 ` Mike Frysinger
2005-12-26 12:53 ` Bastiaan Visser
2005-12-26 13:12 ` Petteri Räty
2005-12-26 16:32 ` Jan Kundrát
2005-12-26 16:44 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2005-12-26 18:28 ` Andrew Muraco
2005-12-26 12:45 ` Danny van Dyk
2005-12-26 11:35 ` Luca Barbato
2005-12-26 15:35 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-12-26 16:57 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-12-26 17:07 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-12-26 17:53 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-12-26 19:15 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2005-12-26 19:03 ` [gentoo-dev] " Carsten Lohrke
2005-12-26 20:06 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-12-26 18:36 ` Re[2]: " Joe McCann
2005-12-26 19:00 ` Carsten Lohrke
2005-12-26 19:24 ` Re[4]: " Jakub Moc
2005-12-26 20:48 ` Joe McCann
2005-12-26 21:02 ` Stephen P. Becker
2005-12-26 21:21 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2005-12-26 21:47 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-12-26 22:19 ` Lares Moreau
2005-12-26 22:28 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-12-26 22:31 ` Andrew Muraco
2005-12-27 1:29 ` Dale
2005-12-27 4:28 ` Chandler Carruth
2005-12-27 4:43 ` Brian Harring
2005-12-27 5:10 ` Chandler Carruth [this message]
2005-12-27 5:30 ` Brian Harring
2005-12-28 17:05 ` Olivier Fisette
2005-12-30 18:07 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-12-26 17:08 ` Simon Stelling
2005-12-26 18:34 ` Doug Goldstein
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