From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1EqzWX-000592-3o for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 21:04:53 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jBQL482N014934; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 21:04:08 GMT Received: from lennier.cc.vt.edu (lennier.cc.vt.edu [198.82.162.213]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jBQL2CuJ006063 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 21:02:12 GMT Received: from dagger.cc.vt.edu (IDENT:mirapoint@evil-dagger.cc.vt.edu [10.1.1.11]) by lennier.cc.vt.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jBQL2AZ1025707 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 16:02:10 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (blacksburg-bsr1-69-170-32-128.chvlva.adelphia.net [69.170.32.128]) by dagger.cc.vt.edu (MOS 3.6.4-CR) with ESMTP id EXD60122 (AUTH spbecker); Mon, 26 Dec 2005 16:02:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <43B05A4D.5080304@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 16:02:05 -0500 From: "Stephen P. Becker" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051204) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Stupid USE defaults that need cleaning References: <43AF7B25.6060803@gentoo.org> <20051226153533.695493e4@snowdrop.home> <1962459692.20051226175717@gentoo.org> <1135622183.3203.27.camel@zelda.hyrule> <738984276.20051226202410@gentoo.org> <1135630090.3203.38.camel@zelda.hyrule> In-Reply-To: <1135630090.3203.38.camel@zelda.hyrule> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 6dcf40f9-f45f-4b23-9b23-e8df5ff31fd9 X-Archives-Hash: eb8b387db070fbda285110c6ac9094a0 >>OK, so because every 3rd gnome user is not able to add the proper use flag >>to make.conf, every non-gnome user is stuck with investigating and putting >>-eds into make.conf to avoid pulling in gnome crap. Wonderful. >> >>Yes, I am ranting, because this kind of use flags basically pulls in huge >>number or unwanted dependencies; exactly the same thing with motif - would >>someone explain why the heck do do we need this thing in make.defaults? >> > > > I can say the same thing for people who are to lazy to add the proper > -use flag(when it is much more obvious that deps you don't want are > being pulled in compared to support you do want not being compiled in). > Unless this is going to go beyond ranting, there isn't much point from > either side. In this case, you are wrong. These USE flags are not doing what they are intended to do because of eds. If a user explicitly sets -gtk -gnome, and gnome *still* is pulled in because of eds in the default profile, this is broken behavior. I also suspect that "every 3rd gnome user" is a minority compared to the number of folks who are affected by forcing eds. -Steve -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list