From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1Eqrhr-00006U-3O for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 12:44:03 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jBQCgQ27000572; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 12:42:26 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [134.68.220.30]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jBQCcNVH021642 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 12:38:24 GMT Received: from p83.129.51.23.tisdip.tiscali.de ([83.129.51.23] helo=[192.168.101.99]) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.54) id 1EqrcN-0004jS-44 for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 12:38:23 +0000 Message-ID: <43AFE5CE.9090003@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 13:45:02 +0100 From: Danny van Dyk User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051119) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Stupid USE defaults that need cleaning References: <43AF7B25.6060803@gentoo.org> <200512260109.26924.vapier@gentoo.org> <43AF9ABC.20507@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <43AF9ABC.20507@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 2e13ba3f-55bc-44ad-aadd-7afb33433f7c X-Archives-Hash: 471e5f41fda3dd58940987631184ecea -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Doug, Doug Goldstein schrieb: |>>the USE defaults are a bit INSANE... We need to get rid of some of this |>>crap... Buzzwords like "Stupid,INSANE,crap,bitching" beside: There are projects which need these combinations of USE flags like Releng. They are currently used to create the GRP set, and I don't see them growing useless for us. Further on, the default flags are only a proposal. Nobody forces you to use them... |>not really a useful endeavor unless we get something like per-package USE |>defaults or useflag groups and a (even more) flexible profile system. |>everyone has their own opinion as to what a 'good' or 'sane' default is and |>debating each flag is a waste of energy Full ACK | oh, I also forgot to bitch about "fortran" as the crowd in #-dev pointed This has a purpose: There are a lot of packages in the tree which need a proper FORTRAN compiler installed (not f2c). Without the default fortran USE flag, people who use the GRP wouldn't be able to emerge them w/o recompiling gcc. As soon as USE based atoms are available, the Scientific Project will discuss removing "fortran" from the default USE. Danny - -- Danny van Dyk Gentoo/AMD64 Project, Gentoo Scientific Project -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDr+XOaVNL8NrtU6IRAk/eAJ9TYUeD0n3fR6JnXRfNjddxN5+K9ACfdStW nXBlTdx89R6zdkn2wnbSiGU= =GwyL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list