From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1EqGKD-0000Rl-P8 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 24 Dec 2005 20:49:10 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jBOKmOku027354; Sat, 24 Dec 2005 20:48:24 GMT Received: from smtp102.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp102.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.229.103]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jBOKkPa5025538 for ; Sat, 24 Dec 2005 20:46:25 GMT Received: (qmail 20869 invoked from network); 24 Dec 2005 20:46:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.5?) (curtis119@sbcglobal.net@69.221.12.88 with plain) by smtp102.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Dec 2005 20:46:25 -0000 Message-ID: <43ADB3B7.1080707@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 15:46:47 -0500 From: Curtis Napier User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051214) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: how to contribute to use/slot deps: was Re: [gentoo-dev] Multiple Repo Support References: <43A235AD.6030604@leetworks.com> <200512240337.38188.jstubbs@gentoo.org> <1135370733.1873.10.camel@Darkmere.darkmere> <200512241240.35292.jstubbs@gentoo.org> <20051224075636.GG5796@nightcrawler.e-centre.net> <20051224173306.68fa6968@snowdrop.home> <46059ce10512240958n2989051ep4360e8f64b53a4e2@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <46059ce10512240958n2989051ep4360e8f64b53a4e2@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 0882b6c1-d3cf-4a4d-bf9e-d6141e3eb973 X-Archives-Hash: cd4b5f27583cbc6e831d2efaebcba06c Dan Meltzer wrote: > On 12/24/05, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > >>On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:56:37 -0800 Brian Harring >>wrote: >>| It's really pretty simple- get off your butt and chip in if you want >>| it, else you're on _our_ timeline (eg, we implement it when we deem >>| it sane/ready to go). >> >>Is Portage development done to support the needs of those of us who >>provide the tree, or is the tree expected to be restricted to whatever >>Portage developers feel like implementing? > > > I'd say the latter. > > The tree is restricted to what is implemented in portage, and as it is > a volunteer organization, what is implemented is what the portage > dev's feel like implementing. > > If you want more to be implemented, submit patches. > hmmmmmmm, from reading the emails, bug reports and irc chats of portage devs, non-portage devs and end users I would say it's a little bit of both. The non-portage devs are using a tool provided by the portage devs that allows them to create the Gentoo distro. Those two teams work together to ensure the best possible tool. If the portage devs ONLY did what they felt like (or the opposite, only did what the other devs told them and ignored their own intimate knowledge of portage) then portage would not be where it is today. True developement is a subtle play of ideas back and forth between everyone involved resulting in an excellent piece of software. Yes, the portage devs have the final say since they are the ones doing the actual work but they would be remiss if they simply ignored everyone else and did what they wanted (although they could very well do this if they choose). Just as the non-portage devs would be remiss if we ignored everyone else while doing our work. The one doing the work is the one with the intimate knowledge of internals so their opinion should count very highly when it comes to implementing/not-implementing those ideas but not all of the ideas come from the portage-devs. Some of the ideas come from the non-portage-dev people who use it on a daily basis. As so many have said, Gentoo is an all volunteer project so you get what we have time to give you but we *do* listen to the ideas of others. We don't always implement those ideas but we do listen to them at the very least. You never know where the next great idea that will make things faster/more efficient is going to come from and we would be stupid to ignore them. confucius says: No dev is an island. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list