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From: Andrew Muraco <tuxp3@leetworks.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving GCC-3.4 to stable on x86
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 15:07:43 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <438E068F.7020804@leetworks.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051130200005.GA17628@superlupo.rechner>

Wernfried Haas wrote:

>On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 01:56:40PM -0500, Mark Loeser wrote:
>  
>
>>Seems people read this to mean that I was going to write a doc, which I have
>>no intentions on doing.
>>    
>>
>I don't think a whole doc is necessary, but instructions for a safe
>upgrade would be fine. A think a one-liner like
>emerge -u gcc && emerge -e system && emerge -e world && emerge -P gcc
>&& emerge whateverneedstobedoneafterwards should suffice as documentation.
>
>  
>
>>I believe adding "It is recommended that you `emerge
>>-e system && emerge -e world` after merging gcc-3.4" to the einfo at the end
>>of the gcc-3.4.4 install should be good enough. 
>>    
>>
>Maybe people look closer if they upgrade gcc, but einfo still gets
>overlooked easily.
>
>  
>
>>So, let me know if marking it stable in the next day or two is completely 
>>stupid and I should wait to announce this via the GWN or something, or if its 
>>an alright move and people aren't going to stab me for marking it stable.
>>    
>>
>Assuming a clear upgrade path is provided i think it would be
>fine. We'll make some sticky thread on the forum mentioning that
>instructions, i bet it couldn't hurt to put them on the gentoo
>mainpage, as topic in #gentoo etc. I'm also pretty sure next GWN is
>likely to report about the update.
>Just because we haven't got emerge --news it doesn't mean we haven't
>got lots of ways to reach our users. Every user that gets to read them
>in time is a potential bug report less.
>
>cheers,
>	Wernfried
>  
>
Personally, I would set a date next week, so that way GWN and other 
places can be prepare for this, a definate date for users to know that 
it IS going to happen, and I personally think that a sticky on the forum 
(i would even be willing to write a little something, but i'm no expert) 
is a minimum. A full out doc with all the FAQ and important notes about 
what needs to be recompiled (in my opinion) would be a much more through 
upgrade path, ofcourse still include the einfo quick instructions. But I 
think the masses of users will not be happy when they realize that 
emerge -e world && emerge -e world means that they will be compiling for 
the next day (or 2 or 3), so a way to block the upgrade from messing up 
people that wish to keep 3.3.x as default would be a good idea.

just my $.02

Tux
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  reply	other threads:[~2005-11-30 20:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-28 14:22 [gentoo-dev] Moving GCC-3.4 to stable on x86 Mark Loeser
2005-11-28 14:46 ` Mike Frysinger
2005-11-28 18:12 ` Bjarke Istrup Pedersen
2005-11-28 22:24   ` Daniel Gryniewicz
2005-11-28 23:11     ` [gentoo-dev] " R Hill
2005-11-29  2:30     ` [gentoo-dev] " Mike Frysinger
2005-11-29  2:40       ` Mark Loeser
2005-11-29  8:51         ` Gregorio Guidi
2005-11-29  9:04           ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-29  9:53             ` Graham Murray
2005-11-29 10:09               ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-29 14:50           ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-29 15:03             ` Mike Frysinger
2005-11-29 15:42               ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-29 15:52                 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-29 16:04                   ` Mike Frysinger
2005-11-29 17:37                     ` Andreas Proschofsky
2005-11-29 18:26                       ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-12-01 17:26                       ` Paul Varner
2005-11-29 16:51                   ` Peter Ruskin
2005-11-29  8:56         ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-29 11:18 ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2005-11-29 13:18   ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-29 13:21   ` Mark Loeser
2005-11-29 13:50     ` Curtis Napier
2005-11-29 14:03       ` William Kenworthy
2005-11-29 16:38       ` Tres Melton
2005-11-29 15:50     ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2005-11-29 15:01 ` Mike Williams
2005-11-29 15:39   ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-30  4:41     ` Andrew Muraco
2005-11-30 14:06       ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-30 14:16         ` tuxp3
2005-11-30 14:25           ` Mike Frysinger
2005-11-30 14:45           ` Graham Murray
2005-11-30 18:56 ` Mark Loeser
2005-11-30 19:25   ` Petteri Räty
2005-11-30 20:00   ` Wernfried Haas
2005-11-30 20:07     ` Andrew Muraco [this message]
2005-11-30 20:12       ` Mark Loeser
2005-11-30 20:16         ` Andrew Muraco
2005-11-30 20:51           ` Georgi Georgiev
2005-11-30 21:13             ` Andrew Muraco
2005-11-30 21:19             ` Mark Loeser
2005-12-01  4:41               ` Lares Moreau
2005-12-01  5:17           ` [gentoo-dev] " R Hill
2005-12-01 11:50             ` Jason Wever
2005-12-01 12:47             ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-12-01 14:33             ` Lares Moreau
2005-11-30 21:19         ` [gentoo-dev] " Peter Ruskin
2005-11-30 21:27           ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-30 22:15             ` Peter Ruskin
2005-11-30 22:48             ` Harald van Dijk
2005-11-30 21:31           ` Simon Strandman
2005-11-30 22:34       ` Philip Webb
2005-11-30 22:42         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-30 22:43         ` Grant Goodyear
2005-11-30 22:48         ` Mark Loeser
2005-11-30 23:29         ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-30 23:41           ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-30 23:50             ` Mark Loeser
2005-12-01  0:30               ` Marien Zwart
2005-12-01  0:53                 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-12-01  1:07                   ` Marien Zwart
2005-12-02  2:03                 ` Matthias Langer
2005-12-02  2:14                   ` Matthias Langer
2005-12-01  1:19           ` Philip Webb
2005-12-01  9:19           ` Petteri Räty
2005-11-30 21:34   ` solar

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