From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E0bmD-0002TY-QW for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 09:12:34 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j749BHRk030946; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 09:11:17 GMT Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j7499eCj018167 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 09:09:41 GMT Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id x7so217112nzc for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 02:10:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=AadP15ROUQsl1w3B8AOsdX1CH21tT8wPhNPxgE38/S0SrdsRX382ktmAB6Z0VJvH0ghm64ym+WZmTGgUtOmweC0owCY77iFkVp4vm3l4Urp7LvunU8izwp5xGL802iGq3I0MyzlLDBRCftCfBmun47HbgTCfOfwadfjUsm6Fp90= Received: by 10.37.20.32 with SMTP id x32mr588151nzi; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 02:10:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.77.1 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 02:10:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <43872d3705080402101a4363e6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 11:10:20 +0200 From: Bertrand Jacquin <beber.gentoo@gmail.com> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans In-Reply-To: <42EE8C03.3040904@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42EE8C03.3040904@gentoo.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by robin.gentoo.org id j7499eCj018167 X-Archives-Salt: ee6d41ce-127e-473e-bbad-0f0666750e3c X-Archives-Hash: 756b7d1da83cac2851ad51a9e5b8a1f7 that's great :) Thanks for doing that. That's exactly what I done with XCB ebuilds. Maybe some of you don't know xcb, it a remplacement for Xlib. Currently it only available on cvs. I think it couldn't have to be ignore it. Some ebuilds for : http://guybrush.ath.cx/svn/public/portage/x11-libs/ Website : http://freedesktop.org/Software/xcb Also It's on heavy devlopment, and I'not a dev. So take the choice you'll find the best :) ++ Beber On 8/1/05, Donnie Berkholz <spyderous@gentoo.org> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > (This is an expanded, updated version of a recent blog post, so some of > you may have already seen parts of it.) > > Background: Upstream is splitting up the monolithic X.Org X11 release > into a huge number of modular releases, the combination of which will be > released as X11R7. Simultaneously, a source-identical monolith will be > released as X11R6.9. > > Gentoo will only add X11R7, the modular release. Roughly 280 packages > will comprise this release, so this will entail adding a few new > categories to deal with them. > > Here's the categories I'm looking at using, which is mostly a mirror of > how upstream breaks it down: > > ~ * x11-apps: The various applications that come along with all X11RX > releases. 86 ebuilds. > > ~ * x11-proto: The protocol headers. 30 ebuilds. > > ~ * x11-libs: 43 ebuilds. > > ~ * media-fonts: 35 ebuilds. > > ~ * x11-drivers: All the video and input drivers. 68 ebuilds. > > ~ * x11-base: The actual X server, and meta-ebuilds. <10 ebuilds. > > ~ * app-doc: Old-format docs that haven't been broken into individual > packages yet. Probably just a couple ebuilds. > > ~ * x11-misc: The data module, which contains bitmaps and xkbdata. > Also the util module, with imake, etc. <10 ebuilds. > > The new categories are x11-apps, x11-proto and x11-drivers. Of these, > the name for x11-proto (the protocol headers) is debatable. The upstream > module they're all in is called "proto," and their pkg-config (*.pc) > files are called fooproto. But I'm also open to names such as > x11-protocol or x11-headers, so let me know what you think makes the > most sense, both in understanding the meaning and in combination with > upstream's naming. > > My plan is to have a series of "submetabuilds" that combine into a > "supermetabuild," which will be the actual xorg-x11 ebuild. There will > be one submetabuild for each major component: apps, drivers, libraries, > etc. This will allow me to split USE flags out a bit (so e.g., x11-fonts > would have 100dpi, 75dpi, truetype as flags) as well as allow people who > only want e.g. libraries for a headless server to get them cleanly. > > I intend to begin adding these packages to the tree shortly after the > first release candidate, which should be happening very soon. > > > Repercussions: > > All packages in the tree will need to clearly enunciate exactly which > parts of X they need as DEPENDs and RDEPENDs, down to the library or > application level. > > Until such time as that becomes possible for everyone to do, the > x11-libs metabuild will PROVIDE virtual/x11. But realize that not > everybody will have or want all the X libraries installed, when they > only need a few. > > If your package depends on virtual/x11 for any reason besides libraries, > it will require a dependency update to work with the new packages. > > > My preliminary work on the modular ebuilds is at > http://dev.gentoo.org/~spyderous/x-modular/ -- browse this at your > leisure. The metabuilds are all in x11-base/. There will be no tarball > of this overlay available because I'm not interested in dealing with > other testers before the first release candidate has even come out. > > I eagerly await your questions and concerns. > > Thanks, > Donnie > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFC7owDXVaO67S1rtsRAu68AJwISOSEwUChCvgQ96Y1KJGFmNYb/wCfaOEz > WURqd84yUyrb9cJqmiZE6sc= > =L4yH > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > -- > gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list