From: Andrew Muraco <tuxp3@leetworks.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Decision to remove stage1/2 from installation documentation
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 23:01:13 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4383E989.2090202@leetworks.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051122144745.GR12982@mail.lieber.org>
Kurt Lieber wrote:
>We have received *numerous* complaints from users about the decision to
>remove stage 1 and 2 from the installation documentation. I realize it's
>still available if users are willing to dig for it, but not all users do.
>
>In my years of monitoring www@gentoo.org, we've received the most
>complaints about this decision than any other single decision. Is there a
>way we can re-introduce the stages into the installation documentation,
>perhaps with gigantic warnings saying, "for advanced users only" or "use at
>your own risk"?
>
>--kurt
>
(I've read all of the comments up until now, but my response is not
directed at any particular post.)
Facts: (according to me, and what I've read)
-The releng team DID make a good decision by making stage 3 default in
the instructions.
-The releng team _DID_NOT_ do a sufficient job of making the community
aware of the changes BEFORE they occurred (I didn't know about this
change until after it was done, and Gentoo.org is my home page, I read
the GWN)
-Stage 1 & 2 tar balls and instructions ARE available
OPINION:
- This change should be GLEP'd, as it effects everyone that installs
Gentoo (to some degree, most do not suffer tho)
- Stage 1 SHOULD continue to be released and maintained, instructions
clearly stating risks and LACK of SUPPORT and easily visibility from the
install docs (which it seems it does not have (according to posts),
although, It is perfectly clear to me.)
to the releng team: Good Decision, Bad Execution Thats whats leading to
this entire reaction.
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Andrew
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2005-11-22 14:47 [gentoo-dev] Decision to remove stage1/2 from installation documentation Kurt Lieber
2005-11-22 14:37 ` Andrea Barisani
2005-11-22 15:14 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 15:26 ` Marc Hildebrand
2005-11-22 15:48 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 16:15 ` Wernfried Haas
2005-11-22 16:33 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 19:13 ` Wernfried Haas
2005-11-23 4:58 ` [gentoo-dev] " R Hill
2005-11-23 5:15 ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-23 6:16 ` R Hill
2005-11-23 11:41 ` Duncan
2005-11-23 7:04 ` Abhay Kedia
2005-11-22 15:29 ` [gentoo-dev] " solar
2005-11-22 15:38 ` Stephen P. Becker
2005-11-22 15:47 ` Mike Frysinger
2005-11-22 15:58 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 16:25 ` solar
2005-11-22 16:40 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 15:40 ` Andrea Barisani
2005-11-23 5:19 ` [gentoo-dev] " R Hill
2005-11-23 5:36 ` Dale
2005-11-23 6:08 ` Brian Harring
2005-11-23 5:43 ` Tuan Van
2005-11-23 20:05 ` [gentoo-dev] " Mike Owen
2005-11-23 20:13 ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-23 21:16 ` Mike Owen
2005-11-23 21:21 ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-23 21:31 ` Bruno
2005-11-22 14:53 ` Stephen P. Becker
2005-11-22 15:15 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 16:19 ` [gentoo-dev] " Thomas Kirchner
2005-11-22 16:39 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 17:12 ` Harald van Dijk
2005-11-22 17:51 ` Simon Stelling
2005-11-22 17:59 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-22 18:08 ` Joe McCann
2005-11-22 17:40 ` Abhay Kedia
2005-11-22 18:02 ` Stephen P. Becker
2005-11-22 18:48 ` Abhay Kedia
2005-11-22 18:59 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 19:23 ` Abhay Kedia
2005-11-22 18:13 ` Danny van Dyk
2005-11-22 18:20 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-22 18:47 ` Danny van Dyk
2005-11-23 17:30 ` Sven Vermeulen
2005-11-22 18:03 ` [gentoo-dev] " Grant Goodyear
2005-11-22 18:16 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-22 18:17 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-22 19:04 ` Grant Goodyear
2005-11-22 19:47 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 18:29 ` Daniel Ostrow
2005-11-24 20:49 ` [gentoo-dev] [OT] " lnxg33k
2005-11-25 14:28 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-12-02 5:21 ` lnxg33k
2005-11-22 19:06 ` [gentoo-dev] " Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 19:28 ` Grant Goodyear
2005-11-22 19:57 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 20:16 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-22 20:28 ` Alexey Chumakov
2005-11-22 21:02 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 20:42 ` Alec Joseph Warner
2005-11-22 21:13 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 20:58 ` Re[2]: " Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 21:36 ` Re[4]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-22 23:26 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-23 0:55 ` Re[6]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-23 1:09 ` Donnie Berkholz
2005-11-23 1:13 ` Mark Loeser
2005-11-23 1:30 ` Re[6]: " George Prowse
2005-11-23 10:25 ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-23 11:06 ` Re[8]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-23 13:01 ` Ned Ludd
2005-11-23 13:19 ` Ned Ludd
2005-11-23 15:57 ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2005-11-23 14:16 ` solar
2005-11-23 13:50 ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-22 15:10 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 15:26 ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2005-11-22 15:49 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 15:54 ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-22 16:06 ` Andrew Gaffney
2005-11-22 16:18 ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-22 16:30 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 17:15 ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-22 18:37 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 17:24 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-22 16:56 ` Benjamin Judas
2005-11-22 20:54 ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2005-11-22 18:06 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-23 4:01 ` Andrew Muraco [this message]
2005-11-23 9:24 ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-23 14:12 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-24 5:26 ` Sven Vermeulen
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