From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EeI3K-0000eC-IT for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:14:14 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jALKDWOs018919; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:13:32 GMT Received: from mta9.adelphia.net (mta9.adelphia.net [68.168.78.199]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jALKBQLh008541 for ; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:11:27 GMT Received: from [192.168.0.165] (really [68.168.137.100]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051121201125.YVDA17844.mta9.adelphia.net@[192.168.0.165]> for ; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 15:11:25 -0500 Message-ID: <43822902.8070901@leetworks.com> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 15:07:30 -0500 From: Andrew Muraco User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051102) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 42 "Critical News Reporting" Round Two References: <20051105005814.0de0d8ff@snowdrop.home> <1131751347.25730.58.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> <1131757062.8508.119.camel@mogheiden.gnqs.org> <1131809168.8774.10.camel@vertigo.twi-31o2.org> <1131921258.18102.18.camel@mogheiden.gnqs.org> <1131976769.9703.6.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> <1132357492.8558.58.camel@mogheiden.gnqs.org> <1132509986.29028.4.camel@vertigo.twi-31o2.org> <1132519354.8985.17.camel@mogheiden.gnqs.org> <46059ce10511201301v4f206e1dt7df2597a06b6965c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 8d7064af-d09c-4aa7-9622-e063462d80ba X-Archives-Hash: 0071a33c0b2193c56dcba4eae2f792b8 Mint Shows wrote: > > > This feature should only be used for things that are directly related > to the tree, and will cause mass breakage if ignored. > > > I fully agree with this statement. I am behind the adoption of the > GLEP only if it does what (I originally believed) was its purpose...to > get CRITICAL news regarding package upgrades..etc. If a user wants to > know what's going on with the developers..they can subscribe to this > -dev list. If a user wants to know how to NOT break his system by > performing an 'emerge -u world' portage should tell them. > > -- > Mint Shows > I fully agree here, or in the case of Apache, which my its self is not a critical system component, but its is a very important part of many user's systems, that is also worthy of a NEWS Item. On another note, i'm not exactly sure how this would be implemented, but perferably wouldn't the new NEWS Items be best if provided before a package upgrade? for example emerge -avu apache These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild U ] net-www/apache-2.0.54-r31 *(1 News Item) [2.0.54-r30] +apache2 -debug -doc -ldap -mpm-leader -mpm-peruser -mpm-prefork -mpm-threadpool -mpm-worker -no-suexec (-selinux) +ssl -static-modules -threads 5,488 kB Total size of downloads: 5,488 kB Would you like to read the unread News Item? [Yes/No] Do you want me to merge these packages? [Yes/No] Of course, running emerge -vu apache shouldn't be stopped, it should continue with its own risk. Thats just one thing i would like to see. Tux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list