From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EdvKp-0003Js-4y for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 19:58:47 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jAKJw6DE027336; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 19:58:06 GMT Received: from ns2.osuosl.org (ns2.osuosl.org [140.211.166.131]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jAKJtQ5R025750 for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 19:55:27 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ns2.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 172401219F7 for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 11:55:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns2.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns1.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24350-23 for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 11:55:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.50] (c-67-164-63-58.hsd1.or.comcast.net [67.164.63.58]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ns2.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 347BD1219F3 for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 11:55:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4380D4AC.3080602@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 11:55:24 -0800 From: Michael Marineau Organization: Gentoo Linux User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050728) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] punting the use.defaults feature References: <951460691.20051118163308@gentoo.org> <20051118154312.GF24327@toucan.gentoo.org> <1726602389.20051118165931@gentoo.org> <20051118191858.GA28166@phaenix.haell.com> <20051118231429.GA2777@toucan.gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <20051118231429.GA2777@toucan.gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigFFA6878765524E6C156B4F11" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at osuosl.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.7 tagged_above=-999.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: X-Archives-Salt: c9e3ad57-1a1d-4ad7-b7a8-b4f420e52991 X-Archives-Hash: dbade96ac8364c0471a3e2fe0060e4c3 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigFFA6878765524E6C156B4F11 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 11:18:58AM -0800, Drake Wyrm wrote: > >>Jakub Moc wrote: >> >>>Well, I don't think so... If I want to enable a feature for one >>>specific ebuild and a USE flag in /etc/portage/package.use pulls in a >>>dep, that in turn enables that use flag globally, it's obviously not >>>what I intended and forces me to add yet another -flag into make.conf >> >>If you don't want portage to employ dark magic in guessing which use >>flags you want enabled, don't let it. Specify your use flags explicitly. > > > or we can just remove the dark magic and be done with it > > use.defaults is almost like letting ./configure scripts auto detect > settings on the fly imho > -mike I'll put in another vote against dark magic. However changing this will also lead to many supprises and tick off many users who don't know why a bunch of flags just vanished. How about we leave the feature in portage but remove auto from USE_ORDER in the 2006.0 profile and put a note about the changed behaviour the release announcements. For users who do like the functionality just properly document the existance of USE_ORDER in the install guide. -- Michael Marineau marineam@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux Developer Oregon State University --------------enigFFA6878765524E6C156B4F11 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDgNSsiP+LossGzjARArhBAJ9C+hdtvuB/TzU0Ln63I4r3QiP01wCglsha NLjfBDQQuKqkCqWkDXQfldo= =jeXV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigFFA6878765524E6C156B4F11-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list