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From: Mike Cvet <mcvet@i2ce.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:59:50 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <437FA056.1020502@i2ce.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051119194848.GC28867@gentoo.org>

Sven Vermeulen wrote:
> As I said before, the arch testers themselves aren't asking for
> being a developer but rather for additional tools to help them do their
> work.
> 
> I've said it in the first meeting and I'll reiterate: what is the sentiment
> of the arch testers in this case (if they are still reading this thread)?
> 
> Wkr,
>       Sven Vermeulen
> 
> PS I would be quite surprised if there is *one* arch tester who feels good
>    with this entire thread; it doesn't show of much appreciation between
>    people. There is a huge difference between saying that a group has "made
>    an unfortunate decision" or "did not grasp the essence of the proposal
>    and situation needed to make a good decision", and "abuse of powers".
> 

By far and large, the most important feature of that GLEP is the cvs-ro
access which would allow us as ATs to get updates to the tree as quickly
as possible, and (as someone mentioned previously) avoid getting banned
from the rsync servers for trying to do so.

In actuality, the email address isn't that big of a deal - I acknowledge
that it was put in the GLEP by the AMD64 devs as a form of recognition
for the work that we do; but it server other purposes as well - namely,
recognition on bugzilla that we were in fact members of an arch team.
This would save developers the trouble of looking our email addresses up
in a list on the arch team page, and prevent users from submitting
'copycat' bugzilla reports about the stability of packages, not
realizing that these bugs were actually submitted by arch testers.

Frankly, I (not speaking for the rest of the testers, but I'm sure they
agree to some extent) didn't expect this to explode into the issue it
has become, and don't really care what domain name we get on an address
- we would be happy to get one at all. If the GLEP needs to be delayed
again to make everyone happy, that's fine with me. There was obviously
some miscommunication over the whole situtation, and I don't think that
that is any reason for people to get violent.

Cv
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-11-19 22:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 143+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-18 17:09 [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain Homer Parker
2005-11-18 17:32 ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2005-11-18 22:01   ` Curtis Napier
2005-11-18 22:08     ` Homer Parker
2005-11-18 22:14     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-18 22:44       ` Curtis Napier
2005-11-18 22:55         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-18 23:18           ` Scott Stoddard
2005-11-18 23:21             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-19 15:43             ` Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen
2005-11-18 23:29         ` Kurt Lieber
2005-11-18 23:34           ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-21 10:15             ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-18 23:40           ` Luca Barbato
2005-11-18 23:46           ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-19  0:54             ` Grant Goodyear
2005-11-19  1:19               ` Luis F. Araujo
2005-11-19  1:36               ` George Prowse
2005-11-19  1:52               ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-19  4:22             ` Corey Shields
2005-11-19  4:31               ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-19  4:42                 ` Corey Shields
2005-11-19  4:47                   ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-19 15:20                   ` Grant Goodyear
2005-11-19 16:46                     ` Thierry Carrez
2005-11-19 17:20                       ` Corey Shields
2005-11-19 17:52                         ` Corey Shields
2005-11-19 17:25                       ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-19 17:49                         ` Thierry Carrez
2005-11-19 18:24                           ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-19 18:32                           ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-19 18:05                       ` Matti Bickel
2005-11-19 21:05                   ` Danny van Dyk
2005-11-19 21:20                     ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-19 22:19                       ` Brian Harring
2005-11-19 22:46                         ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-19 22:46                         ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-19 23:38                           ` Brian Harring
2005-11-20  0:05                             ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-20  0:52                               ` Brian Harring
2005-11-19 23:06                         ` Corey Shields
2005-11-20  0:09                           ` Brian Harring
2005-11-20  0:31                             ` Corey Shields
2005-11-19 22:17                     ` Corey Shields
2005-11-23  0:52                       ` Danny van Dyk
2005-11-18 23:47           ` Stuart Herbert
2005-11-18 23:47           ` Scott Stoddard
2005-11-19  0:02           ` Curtis Napier
2005-11-19  0:07           ` Homer Parker
2005-11-19  0:17             ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-19  0:22             ` Kurt Lieber
2005-11-19  0:42               ` Grant Goodyear
2005-11-18 23:58         ` Grant Goodyear
2005-11-19  0:07           ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-19  0:38             ` Grant Goodyear
2005-11-19  1:13               ` Luis F. Araujo
2005-11-19  1:25                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-19  1:55                   ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-19  2:03                   ` Scott Stoddard
2005-11-19  2:07                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-19  2:17                       ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-19 16:21                         ` Tres Melton
2005-11-19  2:27                       ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-19  2:49                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-19  2:59                           ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-19  3:13                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-19  4:30                             ` Stephen P. Becker
2005-11-19  8:11                               ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-19 14:33                                 ` Grant Goodyear
2005-11-19  3:01                           ` Luis F. Araujo
2005-11-19  2:15               ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-19 21:34                 ` Corey Shields
2005-11-19  2:53                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-19  3:01                     ` George Prowse
2005-11-19  3:16                       ` Corey Shields
2005-11-19  3:40                         ` George Prowse
2005-11-19  3:45                           ` Corey Shields
2005-11-19  4:02                             ` George Prowse
2005-11-19  4:18                               ` Corey Shields
2005-11-19  8:39                                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2005-11-19  9:23                                   ` Jason Stubbs
2005-11-19 23:46                                     ` Mike Frysinger
2005-11-20  0:13                                       ` Luis Medinas
2005-11-20  1:45                                       ` Jason Stubbs
2005-11-19  3:09                     ` [gentoo-dev] " Corey Shields
2005-11-19  3:23                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-19  3:35                         ` Corey Shields
2005-11-22 23:06                       ` Marius Mauch
2005-11-19  9:31                   ` Thierry Carrez
2005-11-19  9:46                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-19 11:00                       ` Thierry Carrez
2005-11-19 11:07                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-19 16:06                         ` Carsten Lohrke
2005-11-19  9:55                     ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-19 11:09                       ` Thierry Carrez
2005-11-19 11:24                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-19 11:48                         ` Jason Stubbs
2005-11-19 13:57                     ` [gentoo-dev] Council Responsibilities (was: Email subdomain) Kurt Lieber
2005-11-19 14:23                       ` Kurt Lieber
2005-11-19  1:09             ` [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain Luis F. Araujo
2005-11-19  5:33               ` Mike Frysinger
2005-11-19  5:54                 ` Kurt Lieber
2005-11-19  7:10                   ` Mike Frysinger
2005-11-19 19:48               ` Sven Vermeulen
2005-11-19 21:50                 ` Scott Stoddard
2005-11-19 21:57                 ` George Prowse
2005-11-19 22:08                   ` George Prowse
2005-11-20 14:08                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-19 21:59                 ` Mike Cvet [this message]
2005-11-19 22:01                 ` Lares Moreau
2005-11-19 22:18                 ` Patrick McLean
2005-11-19 22:29                   ` Corey Shields
2005-11-19 22:27                 ` Tres Melton
2005-11-19 22:40                   ` Brian Harring
2005-11-19 23:07                     ` Corey Shields
2005-11-19 23:45                   ` Stuart Herbert
2005-11-19 22:32                 ` Ben Skeggs
2005-11-22 23:19                   ` Marius Mauch
2005-11-22 23:56                     ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-23 15:38                       ` [gentoo-dev] R/O CVS access and its purpose for ATs (was Email subdomain) Daniel Ostrow
2005-11-23 16:04                         ` Kurt Lieber
2005-11-23 16:30                         ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-24 14:46                           ` George Prowse
2005-11-24 16:31                             ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-18 19:31 ` [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain Wernfried Haas
2005-11-18 20:01   ` George Prowse
2005-11-18 21:06 ` Max
2005-11-18 22:17   ` Olivier Crete
2005-11-19  5:32   ` Mike Frysinger
2005-11-19 16:16 ` Lares Moreau
2005-11-19 15:51   ` Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen
2005-11-19 16:38   ` Brian Harring
2005-11-19 16:46     ` Lares Moreau
2005-11-21 10:19 ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-22 23:26   ` Marius Mauch
2005-11-23 10:39     ` [gentoo-dev] Possible solution: email subdomain Duncan
2005-11-23 14:40       ` Marius Mauch
2005-11-23 18:47         ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2005-11-23 19:07           ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-23 19:34             ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-23 19:47               ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-23 22:28           ` Kurt Lieber
2005-11-23 23:07             ` Duncan

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