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From: Lance Albertson <ramereth@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 12:32:44 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <437F6FCC.4050000@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <437F659E.9070008@gentoo.org>

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Thierry Carrez wrote:
> Lance Albertson wrote:

>>I would have thought that the folks working on the GLEP
>>would consider asking infra about the logistics of that solution or that
>>even the council would be curious about that question as well.
> 
> 
> We have an infra team member in the council. And since no infra member
> contested the change to have a subdomain that was required in _October_,
> we thought (obviously by mistake) that it was OK for them. Our mistake
> was to suppose at least one infra member would read council meeting
> summaries.

I forgot to mention one thing I noticed in the meeting log:

15:10 <@Koon> one question is "should have it been resubmitted to dev
for discussion before we vote"
15:10 <@seemant> the latest version of the GLEP document reflects those
changes
15:11 <@seemant> yes, what Koon said
15:11 <@Koon> I answer no, since only the mandated changes are in , but YMMV

That's assuming that the changes had been properly asked by infra if the
implementation would work. Things that look good on paper don't
necessarily work well in practice. I was hoping the postponement of the
vote would allow infra to voice its concerns about the new revised GLEP.
This did not happen, the council assumed that the implementation had be
discussed with infra (which the folks for that GLEP had not done), and
went ahead and voted upon it.

This whole thing is a failure in proper communication. We are all at
fault for that (including me).

-- 
Lance Albertson <ramereth@gentoo.org>
Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-11-19 18:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 143+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-18 17:09 [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain Homer Parker
2005-11-18 17:32 ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2005-11-18 22:01   ` Curtis Napier
2005-11-18 22:08     ` Homer Parker
2005-11-18 22:14     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-18 22:44       ` Curtis Napier
2005-11-18 22:55         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-18 23:18           ` Scott Stoddard
2005-11-18 23:21             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-19 15:43             ` Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen
2005-11-18 23:29         ` Kurt Lieber
2005-11-18 23:34           ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-21 10:15             ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-18 23:40           ` Luca Barbato
2005-11-18 23:46           ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-19  0:54             ` Grant Goodyear
2005-11-19  1:19               ` Luis F. Araujo
2005-11-19  1:36               ` George Prowse
2005-11-19  1:52               ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-19  4:22             ` Corey Shields
2005-11-19  4:31               ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-19  4:42                 ` Corey Shields
2005-11-19  4:47                   ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-19 15:20                   ` Grant Goodyear
2005-11-19 16:46                     ` Thierry Carrez
2005-11-19 17:20                       ` Corey Shields
2005-11-19 17:52                         ` Corey Shields
2005-11-19 17:25                       ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-19 17:49                         ` Thierry Carrez
2005-11-19 18:24                           ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-19 18:32                           ` Lance Albertson [this message]
2005-11-19 18:05                       ` Matti Bickel
2005-11-19 21:05                   ` Danny van Dyk
2005-11-19 21:20                     ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-19 22:19                       ` Brian Harring
2005-11-19 22:46                         ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-19 22:46                         ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-19 23:38                           ` Brian Harring
2005-11-20  0:05                             ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-20  0:52                               ` Brian Harring
2005-11-19 23:06                         ` Corey Shields
2005-11-20  0:09                           ` Brian Harring
2005-11-20  0:31                             ` Corey Shields
2005-11-19 22:17                     ` Corey Shields
2005-11-23  0:52                       ` Danny van Dyk
2005-11-18 23:47           ` Stuart Herbert
2005-11-18 23:47           ` Scott Stoddard
2005-11-19  0:02           ` Curtis Napier
2005-11-19  0:07           ` Homer Parker
2005-11-19  0:17             ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-19  0:22             ` Kurt Lieber
2005-11-19  0:42               ` Grant Goodyear
2005-11-18 23:58         ` Grant Goodyear
2005-11-19  0:07           ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-19  0:38             ` Grant Goodyear
2005-11-19  1:13               ` Luis F. Araujo
2005-11-19  1:25                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-19  1:55                   ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-19  2:03                   ` Scott Stoddard
2005-11-19  2:07                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-19  2:17                       ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-19 16:21                         ` Tres Melton
2005-11-19  2:27                       ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-19  2:49                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-19  2:59                           ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-19  3:13                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-19  4:30                             ` Stephen P. Becker
2005-11-19  8:11                               ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-19 14:33                                 ` Grant Goodyear
2005-11-19  3:01                           ` Luis F. Araujo
2005-11-19  2:15               ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-19 21:34                 ` Corey Shields
2005-11-19  2:53                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-19  3:01                     ` George Prowse
2005-11-19  3:16                       ` Corey Shields
2005-11-19  3:40                         ` George Prowse
2005-11-19  3:45                           ` Corey Shields
2005-11-19  4:02                             ` George Prowse
2005-11-19  4:18                               ` Corey Shields
2005-11-19  8:39                                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2005-11-19  9:23                                   ` Jason Stubbs
2005-11-19 23:46                                     ` Mike Frysinger
2005-11-20  0:13                                       ` Luis Medinas
2005-11-20  1:45                                       ` Jason Stubbs
2005-11-19  3:09                     ` [gentoo-dev] " Corey Shields
2005-11-19  3:23                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-19  3:35                         ` Corey Shields
2005-11-22 23:06                       ` Marius Mauch
2005-11-19  9:31                   ` Thierry Carrez
2005-11-19  9:46                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-19 11:00                       ` Thierry Carrez
2005-11-19 11:07                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-19 16:06                         ` Carsten Lohrke
2005-11-19  9:55                     ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-19 11:09                       ` Thierry Carrez
2005-11-19 11:24                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-19 11:48                         ` Jason Stubbs
2005-11-19 13:57                     ` [gentoo-dev] Council Responsibilities (was: Email subdomain) Kurt Lieber
2005-11-19 14:23                       ` Kurt Lieber
2005-11-19  1:09             ` [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain Luis F. Araujo
2005-11-19  5:33               ` Mike Frysinger
2005-11-19  5:54                 ` Kurt Lieber
2005-11-19  7:10                   ` Mike Frysinger
2005-11-19 19:48               ` Sven Vermeulen
2005-11-19 21:50                 ` Scott Stoddard
2005-11-19 21:57                 ` George Prowse
2005-11-19 22:08                   ` George Prowse
2005-11-20 14:08                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-19 21:59                 ` Mike Cvet
2005-11-19 22:01                 ` Lares Moreau
2005-11-19 22:18                 ` Patrick McLean
2005-11-19 22:29                   ` Corey Shields
2005-11-19 22:27                 ` Tres Melton
2005-11-19 22:40                   ` Brian Harring
2005-11-19 23:07                     ` Corey Shields
2005-11-19 23:45                   ` Stuart Herbert
2005-11-19 22:32                 ` Ben Skeggs
2005-11-22 23:19                   ` Marius Mauch
2005-11-22 23:56                     ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-23 15:38                       ` [gentoo-dev] R/O CVS access and its purpose for ATs (was Email subdomain) Daniel Ostrow
2005-11-23 16:04                         ` Kurt Lieber
2005-11-23 16:30                         ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-24 14:46                           ` George Prowse
2005-11-24 16:31                             ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-18 19:31 ` [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain Wernfried Haas
2005-11-18 20:01   ` George Prowse
2005-11-18 21:06 ` Max
2005-11-18 22:17   ` Olivier Crete
2005-11-19  5:32   ` Mike Frysinger
2005-11-19 16:16 ` Lares Moreau
2005-11-19 15:51   ` Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen
2005-11-19 16:38   ` Brian Harring
2005-11-19 16:46     ` Lares Moreau
2005-11-21 10:19 ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-22 23:26   ` Marius Mauch
2005-11-23 10:39     ` [gentoo-dev] Possible solution: email subdomain Duncan
2005-11-23 14:40       ` Marius Mauch
2005-11-23 18:47         ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2005-11-23 19:07           ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-23 19:34             ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-23 19:47               ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-23 22:28           ` Kurt Lieber
2005-11-23 23:07             ` Duncan

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