From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EdXAI-0008Ao-Fa for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 18:10:18 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jAJI9ahd030754; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 18:09:36 GMT Received: from buggy.blubb.ch (range21-65.shlink.ch [217.148.7.65]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jAJI7208003019 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 18:07:02 GMT Received: from aqua ([192.168.10.5]) by buggy.blubb.ch with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EdX0g-0007Oi-Au for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 19:00:22 +0100 Message-ID: <437F69C5.1000100@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 19:07:01 +0100 From: Simon Stelling User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Request for changes to GLEP 41 References: <20051119162620.GU12982@mail.lieber.org> In-Reply-To: <20051119162620.GU12982@mail.lieber.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 3acbd66d-5727-4eca-9b8a-ec887714169d X-Archives-Hash: f6097dace0fac506009eb0647b56fa24 Kurt Lieber wrote: > * Drop the idea of giving the arch testers an email alias altogether > I don't see what benefit this provides, to be honest. It's not much of a > spiff and if someone is signing up to help with testing just for the > email address, they're not here for the right reasons anyway. I agree that if somebody signs up for an email address, he's in the wrong place. This issue is not new, it's the same with beeing a dev. Becoming an AT isn't easier than becoming dev: You've got a probation period of 30 days, you've got to do the staff and ebuild quizzes. On a side note, I don't think anybody considers the worth of a @g.o address so high that he would sign up only to gain the email address. On the other side, giving the ATs a @g.o address does make sense. It might be easier for other arches, but at least the amd64 team has quite a lot of them, and it's really difficult to keep all the cryptic email addresses in mind. I have to check our AT-List about 3 times a week to see whether a bug was filed by an AT which I can trust and which I know of what his system looks like, or if it is just average Joe. So to me, an email alias would make things easier, with or without subdomain > * Change @subdomain.gentoo.org to @gentoo.org. > > If we want to give them a spiff in recognition of their contribution to > the project, give them the real thing. We do this today for any number > of other non-developer groups, including GWN translators, documentation > translators, etc. The original GLEP didn't foresee a subdomain, we actually wanted to give them a @g.o address, but it seemed that a lot of devs thought ATs were just a random bunch of incompetent users and as a consequence this, don't deserve a 'real' @g.o address. It made me quite sad, and I'm happy to see that I'm not the only one who thinks it would be better to not cut gentoo into different groups. However, the council asked for it, and so it was changed. And the council didn't ask for this on his own, they were just reflecting the majority of devs, so we'll have to accept that. > * Create an entirely new domain I don't really like this, and it seems at least equally complicated as subdomains. If that's really the way we (as in Gentoo) want to go, I'll happily continue to look up the AT page 3 times a week. It's really not a THAT big issue. I just thought it would be nice to give the ATs a @g.o address, but it's really not essentially for me to work. Regards, -- Simon Stelling Gentoo/AMD64 Operational Co-Lead blubb@gentoo.org -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list