From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EdVvE-0004Zq-Ch for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:50:40 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jAJGnYS0006570; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:49:34 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [134.68.220.30]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jAJGkdCE012704 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:46:39 GMT Received: from car75-2-82-66-60-148.fbx.proxad.net ([82.66.60.148]) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.43) id 1EdVrK-0006Oo-Ig for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:46:38 +0000 Message-ID: <437F56ED.9020904@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 17:46:37 +0100 From: Thierry Carrez Organization: Gentoo Linux User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050727) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain References: <1132333748.8524.9.camel@localhost> <200511182022.00662.cshields@gentoo.org> <437EAABE.5050502@gentoo.org> <200511182042.30961.cshields@gentoo.org> <20051119152050.GH12958@dst.grantgoodyear.org> In-Reply-To: <20051119152050.GH12958@dst.grantgoodyear.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: ad65592b-1503-49d9-b94b-b834d7b1bf78 X-Archives-Hash: b695a38b42a1b25fe918f5227430f4c3 Grant Goodyear wrote: > Corey Shields wrote: [Fri Nov 18 2005, 10:42:30PM CST] > >>Still screwed up. Lesson learned, make friends with a majority of the >>council, write and propose a glep the day before a meeting and then push it >>through. wow. sounds a lot like American politics. > > That's quite an indictment. You've skipped right past the notion that > perhaps a mistake was made to accuse the Council of cronyism. As > somebody who's been part of devrel, and thus the recipient of exactly > that type of response more than once, I would think that you would have > known (and done) better. +1 here. Cut the kabbale crap : we felt bad about delaying the GLEP vote for one more month, and we also felt bad about pushing the decision while some people already complained that revised version wasn't published soon enough. The meetings logs are quite clear on this. So we took the median way, accept that GLEP with those changes nobody complained about, and create policy so that such things won't happen in the future. Apparently we were wrong on two accounts : - There were people that disagreed with the changes but stayed quiet in their corner, waiting for a revised GLEP to appear to make their comments, and that were caught short by its publication just before the meeting - There were people that don't have an opinion on the subject but were watching the council for its first bad step to be able to accuse it of abuse of power or worse I won't stand (mostly) alone defending the Council handling of the problem, we were just trying to find the most acceptable solution, which is what we were elected for. Let the vocal minority reverse that decision, I no longer care. -- Koon -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list