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From: Thierry Carrez <koon@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 17:46:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <437F56ED.9020904@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051119152050.GH12958@dst.grantgoodyear.org>

Grant Goodyear wrote:
> Corey Shields wrote: [Fri Nov 18 2005, 10:42:30PM CST]
> 
>>Still screwed up.  Lesson learned, make friends with a majority of the 
>>council, write and propose a glep the day before a meeting and then push it 
>>through.  wow.  sounds a lot like American politics.
> 
> That's quite an indictment.  You've skipped right past the notion that
> perhaps a mistake was made to accuse the Council of cronyism.  As
> somebody who's been part of devrel, and thus the recipient of exactly
> that type of response more than once, I would think that you would have
> known (and done) better.

+1 here.

Cut the kabbale crap : we felt bad about delaying the GLEP vote for one
more month, and we also felt bad about pushing the decision while some
people already complained that revised version wasn't published soon
enough. The meetings logs are quite clear on this. So we took the median
way, accept that GLEP with those changes nobody complained about, and
create policy so that such things won't happen in the future. Apparently
we were wrong on two accounts :

- There were people that disagreed with the changes but stayed quiet in
their corner, waiting for a revised GLEP to appear to make their
comments, and that were caught short by its publication just before the
meeting

- There were people that don't have an opinion on the subject but were
watching the council for its first bad step to be able to accuse it of
abuse of power or worse

I won't stand (mostly) alone defending the Council handling of the
problem, we were just trying to find the most acceptable solution, which
is what we were elected for. Let the vocal minority reverse that
decision, I no longer care.

-- 
Koon
-- 
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  reply	other threads:[~2005-11-19 16:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 143+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-18 17:09 [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain Homer Parker
2005-11-18 17:32 ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2005-11-18 22:01   ` Curtis Napier
2005-11-18 22:08     ` Homer Parker
2005-11-18 22:14     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-18 22:44       ` Curtis Napier
2005-11-18 22:55         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-18 23:18           ` Scott Stoddard
2005-11-18 23:21             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-19 15:43             ` Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen
2005-11-18 23:29         ` Kurt Lieber
2005-11-18 23:34           ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-21 10:15             ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-18 23:40           ` Luca Barbato
2005-11-18 23:46           ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-19  0:54             ` Grant Goodyear
2005-11-19  1:19               ` Luis F. Araujo
2005-11-19  1:36               ` George Prowse
2005-11-19  1:52               ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-19  4:22             ` Corey Shields
2005-11-19  4:31               ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-19  4:42                 ` Corey Shields
2005-11-19  4:47                   ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-19 15:20                   ` Grant Goodyear
2005-11-19 16:46                     ` Thierry Carrez [this message]
2005-11-19 17:20                       ` Corey Shields
2005-11-19 17:52                         ` Corey Shields
2005-11-19 17:25                       ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-19 17:49                         ` Thierry Carrez
2005-11-19 18:24                           ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-19 18:32                           ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-19 18:05                       ` Matti Bickel
2005-11-19 21:05                   ` Danny van Dyk
2005-11-19 21:20                     ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-19 22:19                       ` Brian Harring
2005-11-19 22:46                         ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-19 22:46                         ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-19 23:38                           ` Brian Harring
2005-11-20  0:05                             ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-20  0:52                               ` Brian Harring
2005-11-19 23:06                         ` Corey Shields
2005-11-20  0:09                           ` Brian Harring
2005-11-20  0:31                             ` Corey Shields
2005-11-19 22:17                     ` Corey Shields
2005-11-23  0:52                       ` Danny van Dyk
2005-11-18 23:47           ` Stuart Herbert
2005-11-18 23:47           ` Scott Stoddard
2005-11-19  0:02           ` Curtis Napier
2005-11-19  0:07           ` Homer Parker
2005-11-19  0:17             ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-19  0:22             ` Kurt Lieber
2005-11-19  0:42               ` Grant Goodyear
2005-11-18 23:58         ` Grant Goodyear
2005-11-19  0:07           ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-19  0:38             ` Grant Goodyear
2005-11-19  1:13               ` Luis F. Araujo
2005-11-19  1:25                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-19  1:55                   ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-19  2:03                   ` Scott Stoddard
2005-11-19  2:07                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-19  2:17                       ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-19 16:21                         ` Tres Melton
2005-11-19  2:27                       ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-19  2:49                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-19  2:59                           ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-19  3:13                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-19  4:30                             ` Stephen P. Becker
2005-11-19  8:11                               ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-19 14:33                                 ` Grant Goodyear
2005-11-19  3:01                           ` Luis F. Araujo
2005-11-19  2:15               ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-19 21:34                 ` Corey Shields
2005-11-19  2:53                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-19  3:01                     ` George Prowse
2005-11-19  3:16                       ` Corey Shields
2005-11-19  3:40                         ` George Prowse
2005-11-19  3:45                           ` Corey Shields
2005-11-19  4:02                             ` George Prowse
2005-11-19  4:18                               ` Corey Shields
2005-11-19  8:39                                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2005-11-19  9:23                                   ` Jason Stubbs
2005-11-19 23:46                                     ` Mike Frysinger
2005-11-20  0:13                                       ` Luis Medinas
2005-11-20  1:45                                       ` Jason Stubbs
2005-11-19  3:09                     ` [gentoo-dev] " Corey Shields
2005-11-19  3:23                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-19  3:35                         ` Corey Shields
2005-11-22 23:06                       ` Marius Mauch
2005-11-19  9:31                   ` Thierry Carrez
2005-11-19  9:46                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-19 11:00                       ` Thierry Carrez
2005-11-19 11:07                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-19 16:06                         ` Carsten Lohrke
2005-11-19  9:55                     ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-19 11:09                       ` Thierry Carrez
2005-11-19 11:24                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-19 11:48                         ` Jason Stubbs
2005-11-19 13:57                     ` [gentoo-dev] Council Responsibilities (was: Email subdomain) Kurt Lieber
2005-11-19 14:23                       ` Kurt Lieber
2005-11-19  1:09             ` [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain Luis F. Araujo
2005-11-19  5:33               ` Mike Frysinger
2005-11-19  5:54                 ` Kurt Lieber
2005-11-19  7:10                   ` Mike Frysinger
2005-11-19 19:48               ` Sven Vermeulen
2005-11-19 21:50                 ` Scott Stoddard
2005-11-19 21:57                 ` George Prowse
2005-11-19 22:08                   ` George Prowse
2005-11-20 14:08                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-19 21:59                 ` Mike Cvet
2005-11-19 22:01                 ` Lares Moreau
2005-11-19 22:18                 ` Patrick McLean
2005-11-19 22:29                   ` Corey Shields
2005-11-19 22:27                 ` Tres Melton
2005-11-19 22:40                   ` Brian Harring
2005-11-19 23:07                     ` Corey Shields
2005-11-19 23:45                   ` Stuart Herbert
2005-11-19 22:32                 ` Ben Skeggs
2005-11-22 23:19                   ` Marius Mauch
2005-11-22 23:56                     ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-23 15:38                       ` [gentoo-dev] R/O CVS access and its purpose for ATs (was Email subdomain) Daniel Ostrow
2005-11-23 16:04                         ` Kurt Lieber
2005-11-23 16:30                         ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-24 14:46                           ` George Prowse
2005-11-24 16:31                             ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-18 19:31 ` [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain Wernfried Haas
2005-11-18 20:01   ` George Prowse
2005-11-18 21:06 ` Max
2005-11-18 22:17   ` Olivier Crete
2005-11-19  5:32   ` Mike Frysinger
2005-11-19 16:16 ` Lares Moreau
2005-11-19 15:51   ` Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen
2005-11-19 16:38   ` Brian Harring
2005-11-19 16:46     ` Lares Moreau
2005-11-21 10:19 ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-22 23:26   ` Marius Mauch
2005-11-23 10:39     ` [gentoo-dev] Possible solution: email subdomain Duncan
2005-11-23 14:40       ` Marius Mauch
2005-11-23 18:47         ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2005-11-23 19:07           ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-23 19:34             ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-23 19:47               ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-23 22:28           ` Kurt Lieber
2005-11-23 23:07             ` Duncan

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