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From: Luca Barbato <lu_zero@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP ??: Critical News Reporting
Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 04:16:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43701880.4040409@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <436B9587.7090704@ieee.org>

Nathan L. Adams wrote:
> 
> So you're saying that Gentoo consists of projects that are completely
> 'silo'd up' and have no bearing whatsoever on each other. Then the
> DevRel project only has bearing on those who actually join DevRel. Neat,
> a group formed for the sole purpose of coordinating itself. Security
> need only concern itself with securing its members (from who knows
> what!), and infra can just ignore the needs of everyone else (different
> project!). I wonder how any of the other projects *ever* made it onto
> the website...

Sigh, every project can set up it's own rules for internal project 
tasks, that means that internal docs could be a set of nice ascii art 
and then, you have a nice GuideXML page to point to them than happens to 
be translated on html/pdf/plaintext/whatever upon the necessities.


> 
> The errata.g.o (not the summaries w/ link that emerge would output)
> would obviously be documentation, would obviously be governed by the Doc
> rules, and it would be irrelevant which staff member happened to publish
> a particular guide. If Gentoo really is as balkanized as you state, then
> it is a sad state of affairs indeed. Maybe the 'full fledged' versions
> should be GuideXML-lite or something, I'm not sure, but your argument is
> just silly.

ARGH looks like MANY people do not get what is good about xml and what 
is not so good.

The whole point of using GuideXML is to make EASY convert to something 
else. NOT to use it.

The problem of using xml everywhere is that it is harder to write and 
has some work required in order to be parsed and translated.

So, if I have to set up an infrastructure that would require me to 
generate pdf, webpages, text, younameitwegetit and to update/write it 
not so often and not so quickly, I'd use xml.

If there is something that I'd have to write often by hand and quickly 
and has to be used as is mostly. I'd stay with a simpler format (that 
maybe is still machine parsable).

That said the format Ciaranm suggests for news looks ok for me. XML 
won't add anything but slowing me.

For an errata site GuideXML or an _extended_ version of it could be useful.

lu

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Luca Barbato

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-11-08  3:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 144+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-01  1:51 [gentoo-dev] GLEP ??: Critical News Reporting Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01  2:08 ` [gentoo-dev] " Dan Meltzer
2005-11-01  2:19   ` Brian Harring
2005-11-01  2:20   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01  2:25     ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-01  2:37       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01  3:02       ` Alec Warner
2005-11-01  3:21         ` pclouds
2005-11-01  2:16 ` [gentoo-dev] " Brian Harring
2005-11-01  2:24   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01  2:39     ` Brian Harring
2005-11-01  8:25 ` Wernfried Haas
2005-11-01 11:56   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01  9:21 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2005-11-01 12:21   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01 10:00 ` [gentoo-dev] " Thierry Carrez
2005-11-01 10:45   ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-01 12:13     ` Georgi Georgiev
2005-11-01 12:20       ` [gentoo-dev] " Dan Meltzer
2005-11-01 11:23   ` [gentoo-dev] " John Myers
2005-11-01 11:58   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01 12:16     ` Thierry Carrez
2005-11-01 12:26       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01 12:39         ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-01 12:48           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01 13:32             ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-01 18:18               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04  0:45                 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04  0:56                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04  1:05                     ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04  1:19                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04  1:25                         ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-06 19:41                   ` [gentoo-dev] " R Hill
2005-11-01 13:34             ` [gentoo-dev] " Alec Warner
2005-11-01 13:43               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01 14:07           ` Re[2]: " Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-02 20:49           ` Eldad Zack
2005-11-01 14:38         ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-04  0:54           ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-01 13:54 ` Andrej Kacian
2005-11-01 14:23   ` Christian Birchinger
2005-11-01 18:18   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01 19:20     ` Andrej Kacian
2005-11-01 19:36       ` Alec Joseph Warner
2005-11-01 19:44       ` Grant Goodyear
2005-11-01 20:36         ` Andrej Kacian
2005-11-01 14:16 ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-01 18:26   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01 16:22 ` Jan Kundrát
2005-11-01 18:25   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01 21:57     ` Jan Kundrát
2005-11-01 22:16       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-02  1:29         ` Brian Harring
2005-11-02  0:52           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-02 11:26           ` Michiel de Bruijne
2005-11-02 14:19           ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-02 18:33         ` Jan Kundrát
2005-11-02 22:34           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-03  9:59             ` Jan Kundrát
2005-11-04 14:26             ` Xavier Neys
2005-11-04 18:39               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04 21:30                 ` Jan Kundrát
2005-11-04 21:33                   ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-05  0:13                 ` Xavier Neys
2005-11-04 18:59               ` Danny van Dyk
2005-11-05  0:11                 ` Xavier Neys
2005-11-05  1:30                   ` Danny van Dyk
2005-11-03 13:54         ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-03 14:24           ` pclouds
2005-11-03 13:49     ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-03 19:16       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04  0:29         ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04  0:42           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04  1:02             ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04  1:11               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04  1:24                 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04  1:31                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04  1:36                     ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04  1:46                       ` Stephen P. Becker
2005-11-04  1:53                         ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04  2:30                           ` Luis F. Araujo
2005-11-04 21:37                             ` Jan Kundrát
2005-11-04  1:48                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04  1:55                         ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04  3:06                           ` Qian Qiao
2005-11-04  9:06                       ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-04 14:21                         ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-04 14:04                       ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-04 16:05                         ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 16:46                           ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-04 17:08                             ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 17:29                               ` Daniel Ostrow
2005-11-04 17:29                               ` Jon Portnoy
2005-11-08  3:16                               ` Luca Barbato [this message]
2005-11-10 20:29                       ` Stuart Herbert
2005-11-04  1:33                   ` Brian Harring
2005-11-04  1:41                     ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04  1:51                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04  1:43                     ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04  9:12                       ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-04 12:32                       ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-04 13:34                         ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 14:03                     ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-04  1:43                   ` Stephen P. Becker
2005-11-04  1:52                     ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04  9:15                       ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-04 14:07                     ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-04  1:50                   ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-04  5:30                     ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 21:50                     ` Jan Kundrát
2005-11-06 22:11                       ` Marius Mauch
2005-11-04  9:02                   ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-04 13:38                     ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 14:05                       ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-04 15:55                         ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-07 10:24                           ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-04 14:19                     ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-04 14:02                   ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-04 15:58                     ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 16:41                       ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-04 16:57                         ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 17:07                           ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-04 17:15                             ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04  2:08               ` Grant Goodyear
2005-11-04  2:18                 ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-04  5:44                 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04  8:32                   ` John Myers
2005-11-04  9:33                     ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-04 10:15                       ` Thierry Carrez
2005-11-04 13:18                         ` Marius Mauch
2005-11-04 13:46                         ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 14:27                         ` Xavier Neys
2005-11-04 16:08                           ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04  8:21             ` Wernfried Haas
2005-11-04  9:55           ` Tres Melton
2005-11-04 16:35       ` Danny van Dyk
2005-11-04 16:52         ` Grobian
2005-11-04 17:10           ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-01 19:34 ` Stuart Herbert
2005-11-04 14:37 ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-04 18:48   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04 19:12     ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-04 20:10       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04 22:00     ` Jan Kundrát

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