From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EYM4c-0001ni-09 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 05 Nov 2005 11:19:02 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jA5BILv4031431; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 11:18:21 GMT Received: from hermes.orakel.ods.org (dsl67-66.fastxdsl.nl [62.251.66.67]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jA5BGasJ000596 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 11:16:36 GMT Received: from aphrodite.orakel.ods.org ([172.17.2.15]) by hermes.orakel.ods.org with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.54) id 1EYM2B-0006nI-PO for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Sat, 05 Nov 2005 12:16:32 +0100 Message-ID: <436C948E.1090107@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 12:16:30 +0100 From: Grobian Organization: Gentoo Foundation User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.4.1 (Macintosh/20051006) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 "Critical News Reporting" Round Two References: <20051105005814.0de0d8ff@snowdrop.home> <436C8951.4010008@gentoo.org> <200511051153.13871.jkt@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <200511051153.13871.jkt@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Content-Scanned: by hermes.orakel.ods.org (Exim Exiscan) using SpamAssassin and ClamAV Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by robin.gentoo.org id jA5BILwe031431 X-Archives-Salt: 4ec86e26-4821-4bc8-92ff-f7219d942a49 X-Archives-Hash: 4061894a5fc1b3354ed17cfc4e4f871c Jan Kundr=E1t wrote: > On Saturday 05 of November 2005 11:28 Grobian wrote: >> Remember that it is easy >> to say here that users don't read what's on their consoles as well, as >> in post emerge messages etc. So make sure you deal with it upfront, w= hy >> you think now it *will* work. >=20 > "Emerge messages" are usually hidden by compilation output, so this arg= ument=20 > doesn't apply here, IMHO. Or am I missing your point here? You give an example here of why console messages aren't read. But if=20 that is your rationale here, I would like to see it stated in the GLEP=20 why it *will* work there. On the previous discussion there was an=20 example of a console message not being read fully/properly. This will=20 happen to more people. What I was asking for is that such situation is=20 either outlawed (ie. "People should just read, if they don't then it's=20 not my problem") or recognised (ie. "It is known that people do not=20 read, hence we propose to use a text-to-speech module and play the=20 produced audio file, so the user can listen to the imporant message" --=20 idiotic example of course). Just to make things clear and properly defined. --=20 Fabian Groffen Gentoo for Mac OS X Project -- Interim Lead --=20 gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list