From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EXqgW-0004qk-5a for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2005 01:48:04 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jA41kQZ6005684; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 01:46:26 GMT Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jA41hnFT014160 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 01:43:50 GMT Received: from [67.191.242.121] (c-67-191-242-121.hsd1.ga.comcast.net[67.191.242.121]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with ESMTP id <2005110401434801200532o9e>; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 01:43:48 +0000 Message-ID: <436ABC50.3050705@ieee.org> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 20:41:36 -0500 From: "Nathan L. Adams" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050722) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP ??: Critical News Reporting References: <20051101015125.1cc45eb4@snowdrop.home> <200511011722.29840.jkt@gentoo.org> <20051101182506.4dd701f6@snowdrop.home> <436A1576.5070909@ieee.org> <20051103191642.1fbdbd9d@snowdrop.home> <436AAB79.4020700@ieee.org> <20051104004247.0ff50ff0@snowdrop.home> <436AB342.9040606@ieee.org> <20051104011106.780b46bb@snowdrop.home> <436AB84B.4010406@ieee.org> <20051104013301.GG5073@nightcrawler> In-Reply-To: <20051104013301.GG5073@nightcrawler> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 41f157a7-8cee-4fbb-ad12-c9f78bd6b2f3 X-Archives-Hash: a5dd7d726891c63f66234deca33c4c03 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Brian Harring wrote: > On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 08:24:27PM -0500, Nathan L. Adams wrote: > >>I'm also commenting on the part that *wrongly* states "It is not >>reasonable to expect all users to have an MTA, *web browser*, email >>client, cron daemon or text processing suite available on their system. >>In particular, this means that any markup to be parsed must be in a very >>simple format." >> >>*ALL* of the official docs are GuideXML; Gentoo *expects* users to have >>a web browser by default. Otherwise a vast majority of users would never >>get Gentoo installed in the first place. The "lightweight" requirement >>appears to just be your way of subverting the current documentation >>standards (because of your XML hatred). > > > We actually have links in the base profile iirc, either way, the > example of where this breaks down is headless servers... Actually, a headless server would be administered from a workstation that would actually have a head. (Unless you like the idea of installing things by typing blindly on a keyboard ;)) And as I mentioned in my last reply to Ciaran, I doubt anyone installing a server doesn't have access to the web (another computer for example). And having the GuideXML as the main source does NOT preclude having the other sources (such as emerge --news) for people sitting in the dark. >>The news directory shouldn't the main source of the migration guides; >>the website should be (one central page that can feed other sources). > > Not necessarily the website imo, some central store where it's pushed > out to all of the locations though (which I suspect you're getting > at). If I understand his position correctly, Ciaran doesn't want the GuideXML version at all, which is a supremely stupid idea IMHO. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDarxP2QTTR4CNEQARAvnNAJ4gJb41KcQuE2lsSDoTY4Se9wg+8wCfQKqQ TMwatb4SkjOLfuUJyv7xTf0= =f/nj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list