From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EXqCR-0004za-EK for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2005 01:16:59 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jA41GGKt006391; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 01:16:16 GMT Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [216.148.227.118]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jA41ER5X010468 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 01:14:28 GMT Received: from [67.191.242.121] (c-67-191-242-121.hsd1.ga.comcast.net[67.191.242.121]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id <20051104011245015004dlote>; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 01:12:46 +0000 Message-ID: <436AB50B.2000403@ieee.org> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 20:10:35 -0500 From: "Nathan L. Adams" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050722) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 42 (Was: Getting Important Updates To Users) References: <200511010836.29453.chriswhite@gentoo.org> <46059ce10510311541s6bf5bb1csc19d330ef714a3d4@mail.gmail.com> <46059ce10510311552m4d6cb06eje22d7c31651c8a3c@mail.gmail.com> <20051101075631.GB18490@superlupo.rechner> <1130873554.8565.2.camel@mogheiden.gnqs.org> <1130874713.26789.194.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> <1131046829.8530.45.camel@mogheiden.gnqs.org> In-Reply-To: <1131046829.8530.45.camel@mogheiden.gnqs.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 154b29b5-ba72-4ffe-9fa5-6608d5b77098 X-Archives-Hash: 9c7093e42957717075f34b9949d1aa4f -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Stuart Herbert wrote: > On Tue, 2005-11-01 at 14:51 -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > >>Did you specifically ask them if it is because we have different news in >>different locations? Somehow I think you're obscuring some facts to >>make your own argument. > > > That seems an unpleasant accusation to make :( > > The answer is that I didn't ask them if it was because we have different > news in different locations. The question didn't occur to me. > > >>The only problem that we have now with our multiple mediums is that not >>all news is on all mediums. We should have the same information going >>to all of these and let the user choose which method they like for >>getting news. > > > The critical difference between improving our existing mediums, and the > emerge --news approach that I've proposed, is that emerge --news is the > only approach that actively pushes news out to *all* users, and puts it > in a place that is as guaranteed as anything else available to catch > their attention. > > All the other approaches rely on the user going somewhere to get news, > whether it's signing up to a mailing list, reading www.g.o, reading the > forums, or whatever. Inevitably, this is only going to reach a smaller > subsection of our user community. > > What I care about is that we've taken the right steps to put important > information in front of *all* of our users (and our devs!). Even > (especially?) the ones who are unable to keep up with the news as it is > currently delivered. > > Making sure our users are well-informed improves the level and quality > of service that we provide; it can only enhance our reputation; and it > should also cut down on the amount of developer time that goes into > post-upgrade support (leaving more time for package maintenance). > One source: http://errata.gentoo.org/ Push that out to as many alternate sources as you like (RSS feeds, summaries in emerge --news, forums post, etc.), but make it known that the website is *the* source (your alternate sources should point back to it). -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDarUL2QTTR4CNEQARAh0pAKCi7BJpBOkRRT4iiaXUjajwbrjseACfahPV R2MVvKhkLfnid1/ADRUZAxk= =Oou4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list