From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EXpxG-0006TA-8u for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2005 01:01:18 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jA410NPF024989; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 01:00:23 GMT Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jA40vHj3011242 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 00:57:17 GMT Received: from [67.191.242.121] (c-67-191-242-121.hsd1.ga.comcast.net[67.191.242.121]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with ESMTP id <200511040056590120050ikre>; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 00:57:05 +0000 Message-ID: <436AB150.4010503@ieee.org> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 19:54:40 -0500 From: "Nathan L. Adams" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050722) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP ??: Critical News Reporting References: <20051101015125.1cc45eb4@snowdrop.home> <43673CB6.1010907@gentoo.org> <20051101115843.7b2dfeeb@snowdrop.home> <43675C83.4010005@gentoo.org> <20051101122657.2d06d9e5@snowdrop.home> <1130855908.26789.176.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> In-Reply-To: <1130855908.26789.176.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: c5a95982-576d-4805-b997-81b1bc2b8932 X-Archives-Hash: 19681bef717b3700d38799195b0fd699 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Tue, 2005-11-01 at 12:26 +0000, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > >>On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 13:16:03 +0100 Thierry Carrez >>wrote: >>| For them to know about it, they need to be warned when they do their >>| "emerge -p world" or "emerge -a mysql" that the upgrade is not as easy >>| as it seems. People using a cron job to sync are probably a >>| significant part of our user base... >> >>Have Portage give a red flashy before emerge if there're unread news >>items? > > Or have it die unless they have > I_LIKE_A_BROKEN_SYSTEM_PLEASE_IGNORE_NEWS="yes" in make.conf.... ;] > >>Although, a better solution for users who cron sync would be to have >>said cron mail them all the relevant news files... > > We don't have control over what they do in cron, we do have control over > portage itself. > The cron thing is a *really* good idea. Its so good that its an example in the Gentoo Cron How-to. A few developers actively debugging the sync process might enjoy watching the output of a sync scroll by, but normal/sane people have better things to do. (Note: I'm not bashing Chris's statement here; I honestly don't know what point he was trying to make). So don't implement the --news thing in such a way that in the future a developer might be tempted to tell a complaining user "whats the matter with you? don't you read the output when you sync? no? what a loser; no wonder your system is b0rked." (or something to that effect) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDarFQ2QTTR4CNEQARAgWDAJ0cW1xpOKCy+jjaYCoGBbfOOXSGwwCgojNk flBm0MnXXXRLsBGC3XXcYts= =1Ls9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list