From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EWvBE-0005op-Ew for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2005 12:23:56 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jA1CLPGK008708; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 12:21:26 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [134.68.220.30]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jA1CGkXJ009727 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 12:16:46 GMT Received: from car75-2-82-66-60-148.fbx.proxad.net ([82.66.60.148]) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.43) id 1EWv4H-0002dF-UZ for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2005 12:16:46 +0000 Message-ID: <43675C83.4010005@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 13:16:03 +0100 From: Thierry Carrez Organization: Gentoo Linux User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050727) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP ??: Critical News Reporting References: <20051101015125.1cc45eb4@snowdrop.home> <43673CB6.1010907@gentoo.org> <20051101115843.7b2dfeeb@snowdrop.home> In-Reply-To: <20051101115843.7b2dfeeb@snowdrop.home> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 303cfddd-f3be-49f7-989d-16831695d1e6 X-Archives-Hash: 12f12e63acdf6fd1f86be49a477e7840 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 11:00:22 +0100 Thierry Carrez > wrote: > | I'm probably missing something here. Please elaborate on how this GLEP > | meets the "Preemptive" design goal... > > Simple. emerge --sync displays the "you have 12 unread news items" > message after it's done. The only changes which can't be preempted here > are the kind which completely break rsync... That won't save those following the example I gave: Thierry Carrez wrote: > - emerge --sync run as a daily cron job > - emerge -a mysql > - great, a new version is there. Typing "Yes" > - system gets borken > - emerge spits out message saying 14 files need updating and there is 1 > unread news item For them to know about it, they need to be warned when they do their "emerge -p world" or "emerge -a mysql" that the upgrade is not as easy as it seems. People using a cron job to sync are probably a significant part of our user base... -- Koon -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list