From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EWt1a-0003c8-84 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2005 10:05:50 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jA1A4UCW014242; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 10:04:30 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [134.68.220.30]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jA1A19g5012807 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 10:01:10 GMT Received: from car75-2-82-66-60-148.fbx.proxad.net ([82.66.60.148]) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.43) id 1EWsx3-00083M-M7 for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2005 10:01:09 +0000 Message-ID: <43673CB6.1010907@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 11:00:22 +0100 From: Thierry Carrez Organization: Gentoo Linux User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050727) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP ??: Critical News Reporting References: <20051101015125.1cc45eb4@snowdrop.home> In-Reply-To: <20051101015125.1cc45eb4@snowdrop.home> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 348e2109-de17-432d-aebd-bb4fda841b1c X-Archives-Hash: 991a8b674dcf20a7c7b56198baef569f Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Preemptive > Users should be told of changes *before* they break the user's system, > not after the damage has already been done. I think that's one of the key points... > Notification that new relevant news items will be displayed via the > ``emerge`` tool in a similar way to the existing "configuration files need > updating" messages: > > * Important: 3 config files in /etc need updating. > * Type emerge --help config to learn how to update config files. > > * Important: there are 5 unread news items. > * Type emerge --help news to learn how to read news files. Aren't those messages displayed after the damage is done ? Typical use : - emerge --sync run as a daily cron job - emerge -a mysql - great, a new version is there. Typing "Yes" - system gets borken - emerge spits out message saying 14 files need updating and there is 1 unread news item I'm probably missing something here. Please elaborate on how this GLEP meets the "Preemptive" design goal... -- Thierry Carrez (Koon) Gentoo Council Member -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list